Underbody query - would this put you off buying the car?
Underbody query - would this put you off buying the car?
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Adam2k90

Original Poster:

44 posts

170 months

Saturday 5th September 2020
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Hi all,

I've been looking at purchasing a 130i and thought I had found a good candidate at a good price (£3800 with good service history but a little rough exterior). All seemed well and I sent someone over to look at the car (I'm based in Scotland, car is quite a lot further south!). The response was positive, it drove well, gearbox was good, no flatspots, no clunks etc. There were two very minor oil weeps that the seller hadn't mentioned (according to the babybmw forums these are likely a rocker cover gasket and a fuel filter gasket based on the images I provided, so nothing too out of the ordinary for the N52 engine apprantly, but still a bit annoying as the guy specifically said there were no leaks).

Anyway, I forgot to ask the guy I sent to look at the car to look underneath the car, so the seller kindly provided the following pictures. While they aren't anywhere near as good as being able to physically get underneath, one picture did catch my eye (I *believe* it's a front control arm, but hard to be sure) as it looked a bit crusty. I'm based in Scotland and fairly close to the sea, so rust is probably a greater consideration to me than most when purchasing cars. I appreciate the car is 15 years old, so it's never going to be perfect. However, the seller is also located close to the sea (3 miles), so I'm slightly worried it may have led a harder life in regards to underbody rust, oxidisation, corrosion etc due to the salt. Admittedly the pictures are not great, but I'm just looking for a second opinion as to whether this looks to be unusually 'crusty' and is something to worry about, or is fairly standard fare for a 15 year old car.

Thanks in advance!








Edited by Adam2k90 on Sunday 6th September 00:18

SteveR1979

601 posts

170 months

Sunday 6th September 2020
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Nothing wrong with that at all, however, you sound like the kind of buyer I wouldn't want to sell to.

John Laverick

2,002 posts

243 months

Sunday 6th September 2020
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Christ. It's a 15 year old BMW with a bit of corrosion on a suspension arm. Get a grip.

The Road Crew

4,272 posts

189 months

Sunday 6th September 2020
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John Laverick said:
Christ. It's a 15 year old BMW with a bit of corrosion on a suspension arm. Get a grip.
This!

It looks good for a 5yr old car let alone a 15yr old one!

Get a grip OP - if you want a new car then buy a new car.

croissant

1,262 posts

167 months

Sunday 6th September 2020
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SteveR1979 said:
Nothing wrong with that at all, however, you sound like the kind of buyer I wouldn't want to sell to.
Completely agree. Nothing wrong with that. It’s a 15 year old sub £4K car. Get a grip.

jwilco

335 posts

77 months

Sunday 6th September 2020
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You guys are all so right. How dare he come here and politely ask for some advice. I can see why you're all getting on his back.

paradigital

1,099 posts

181 months

Sunday 6th September 2020
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Sounds like the OP has a good grip to me, just looking for some reassurance that nothing looks too bad as to indicate that parts hidden behind the undertrays are likely to be in a sorry state.

I’d echo the above that the car looks about right for its age, nothing that looks to be setting off alarm bells.

AlwynMike

561 posts

116 months

Sunday 6th September 2020
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Look under the bonnet of a 15 MONTH old BMW, and you'll see most of the bolt heads rusty.
That's fine for a 15 year old

Adam2k90

Original Poster:

44 posts

170 months

Sunday 6th September 2020
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Thanks all!

Yes, I'm aware it may seem like a case of buyer from hell, but I'm naturally going to be more cautious than usual when I can't physically see the car myself.

Rozzers

3,051 posts

104 months

Sunday 6th September 2020
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Ive a 2 year old Range Rover thats worse than that, had to laugh at the recent service video they send showning that sort of stuff and the technician says ‘underbody in excellent condition’ - as they must all look like that. XC90 at 3 years old looked nothing like that.

So yeah, yours looks fine

M4cruiser

5,119 posts

179 months

Sunday 6th September 2020
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I agree that from the pictures it looks pretty good for its age. My previous car had much more rust underneath when it was 12 years old, never mind 15, but it took 4 more years before any welding was needed.

But - always look at the car yourself, however much you trust your friend. Have a nice day out to the seaside, so all is not lost if the car turns out bad. You also get to judge the seller, which is quite important.

ClaphamGT3

12,223 posts

272 months

Sunday 6th September 2020
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John Laverick said:
Christ. It's a 15 year old BMW with a bit of corrosion on a suspension arm. Get a grip.
Beat me to it. OP you’re buying an end of life snotter for not much more than cashpoint money. If it lasts longer than the end of its current MOT, treat it as a bonus.

You need to seriously recalibrate your expectations rolleyes

steveo3002

11,200 posts

203 months

Sunday 6th September 2020
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i think youd be better off with a brand new car that comes with a warrenty...almost anything thats been driven on uk roads will look just like that

just know you will be wanting money back /reject the car if you buy it

ClaphamGT3

12,223 posts

272 months

Sunday 6th September 2020
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steveo3002 said:
i think youd be better off with a brand new car that comes with a warrenty...almost anything thats been driven on uk roads will look just like that

just know you will be wanting money back /reject the car if you buy it
Have you seen his thread about the stone chip?

This has got multiple “the ashtray rattles/the last owner didn’t use BMW approved screen wash once back in 2009 - can I reject?” Type threads written all over it

Sofa

685 posts

121 months

Sunday 6th September 2020
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ClaphamGT3 said:
Beat me to it. OP you’re buying an end of life snotter for not much more than cashpoint money. If it lasts longer than the end of its current MOT, treat it as a bonus.

You need to seriously recalibrate your expectations rolleyes
What world do you live in where a near-£4k car is an 'end of life spotter'?

ClaphamGT3

12,223 posts

272 months

Sunday 6th September 2020
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Sofa said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
Beat me to it. OP you’re buying an end of life snotter for not much more than cashpoint money. If it lasts longer than the end of its current MOT, treat it as a bonus.

You need to seriously recalibrate your expectations rolleyes
What world do you live in where a near-£4k car is an 'end of life spotter'?
The real one....

Poseidon

226 posts

163 months

Sunday 6th September 2020
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ClaphamGT3 said:
Beat me to it. OP you’re buying an end of life snotter for not much more than cashpoint money. If it lasts longer than the end of its current MOT, treat it as a bonus.

You need to seriously recalibrate your expectations rolleyes
Whilst I agree with most of the other posts here - this one is taking it too far.

Nobody spends £4k on a car and expects it to only last a maximum of 12 months. I suspect you’re a bit grumpy this morning.

hyphen

26,262 posts

119 months

Sunday 6th September 2020
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Sofa said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
Beat me to it. OP you’re buying an end of life snotter for not much more than cashpoint money. If it lasts longer than the end of its current MOT, treat it as a bonus.

You need to seriously recalibrate your expectations rolleyes
What world do you live in where a near-£4k car is an 'end of life spotter'?
Its a wind-up.

"If a £4k lasts longer than a year its a bonus" laugh

Mexman

2,442 posts

113 months

Sunday 6th September 2020
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Increase your budget or seriously lower your expectations.
If the seller has any sense, he will drop you like a hot potatoe.
Buyer from hell.

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

202 months

Sunday 6th September 2020
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Checked to see if the OP had been here two minutes but nope.

Don't ever stick your head under a 15 year old japanese car whatever you do.