Range Rover Vogue 3.6/4.4 TDV8 Reliability
Discussion
Hi all,
My Octavia lease has just gone back and as good as mydaily shed is, I'd like to buy a nice big barge for family duties. One of my bucket list cars is the Range Rover Vogue and you can get a decent 2009/10/11 model for about £12k now. Through my research, I can see lots of reviews at opposite sides of the spectrum on reliability. Some (like the high peak autos chap and Harrys Garage) say that they're fine as long as well looked after, others say they're runious when they go wrong, and thats often. All the other diesel cars I look at seem to have the same borkage potential with things like turbo's and injectors (looked at cars with the Mercedes 350CDI, BMW 35D and the Audi 3.0TDI engines.
I'd like to buy it and keep it for 5 years with the aim of then selling it for whatever its worth (maybe £5k). I'll likely be doing 600 miles a month ish, probably lower and I'm aware that they're expensive to tax. I'd be buying something with a full service history (main dealer if possible) and then I'll be getting a local garage to service it as I cant' justify the cost of main dealer service history for a car which is now 10 years old.
What have your experiences been like?
My Octavia lease has just gone back and as good as mydaily shed is, I'd like to buy a nice big barge for family duties. One of my bucket list cars is the Range Rover Vogue and you can get a decent 2009/10/11 model for about £12k now. Through my research, I can see lots of reviews at opposite sides of the spectrum on reliability. Some (like the high peak autos chap and Harrys Garage) say that they're fine as long as well looked after, others say they're runious when they go wrong, and thats often. All the other diesel cars I look at seem to have the same borkage potential with things like turbo's and injectors (looked at cars with the Mercedes 350CDI, BMW 35D and the Audi 3.0TDI engines.
I'd like to buy it and keep it for 5 years with the aim of then selling it for whatever its worth (maybe £5k). I'll likely be doing 600 miles a month ish, probably lower and I'm aware that they're expensive to tax. I'd be buying something with a full service history (main dealer if possible) and then I'll be getting a local garage to service it as I cant' justify the cost of main dealer service history for a car which is now 10 years old.
What have your experiences been like?
They're good cars but the answer is that like most modern cars (& especially when it comes to modern complex SUV's) they're reliable & potentially ruinous, so basically the answer is to do your checks budget for all the fluids (gearbox engine diffs etc) & filters to be changed then hope that you don't have any issues.
Most SUV's at this price range have their issues, I'd say go for it.
Most SUV's at this price range have their issues, I'd say go for it.
Out of the two the 4.4 is the least likely to cause issues, the turbos don’t tend to go pop and it has the more 8 speed ZF box which doesn’t have issues as often, saying that, if you find a well looked after 3.6 that’s had its gearbox oil changed when it was supposed to I’d not be put off by it, just make sure you take care of those turbos!, change the oil regularly and leave it idling for 30 secs to one min before switching off if it’s been on boost just before you want to turn it off.
Other than that air suspension is a common issue on them but there are patent bits now, as long as you don’t have turbo or gearbox issues they’re alright, I’m looking at getting an earlier 3.6 for tip runs and off roading, a friend of mine works in the trade and they’re not changing hands for very much at BCA/Mannheim apparently.
Other than that air suspension is a common issue on them but there are patent bits now, as long as you don’t have turbo or gearbox issues they’re alright, I’m looking at getting an earlier 3.6 for tip runs and off roading, a friend of mine works in the trade and they’re not changing hands for very much at BCA/Mannheim apparently.
I've just purchased a '09 TDV8 with 95k on the Odo 2-weeks ago, replacing a Jaguar XF.
As above, make sure it has proper service history and ideally maintenance receipts too.
Make sure everything works, a/c blows ice cold etc - common sense I know, but amazing how people can be derailed by the seller or just poking around the car, be methodical!
EGR's can throw the EML light on - not a big deal as per any modern diesel - depending on your journey profile it doesn't do them any harm to pop it into Sport and exercise the engine now and again.
Suspension compressor is a known weak point so look out for a receipt for that and check suspension raises/lowers correctly.
Make sure the car sits evenly and doesn't lean to one side - suspension airbags can fail - not an expensive fix.
Nice to have a receipt for gearbox oil change, and ideally diff's and transfer box oils too.
Check tyres, both in terms of brand and signs of uneven wear, the latter common on the front's.
Mine is booked in for a service in October, new front discs/pads (very slight brake judder at motorway speeds) - Brembo from ECP £185 all in for discs/pads/wear sensor which I think is very reasonable.
Also a wheel bearing, probably n/s/f as there is a faint hum once above 50mph.
I had a couple of random error messages on the dash at startup earlier in the start of the week & flashing EPB light, the following morning the battery was dead
- new Bosch battery £140 from ECP, all is now well.
I was like you in that I've always wanted to own one so took the plunge - go for it!
DM me if you want any more info.
Cheers,
Chris
As above, make sure it has proper service history and ideally maintenance receipts too.
Make sure everything works, a/c blows ice cold etc - common sense I know, but amazing how people can be derailed by the seller or just poking around the car, be methodical!
EGR's can throw the EML light on - not a big deal as per any modern diesel - depending on your journey profile it doesn't do them any harm to pop it into Sport and exercise the engine now and again.
Suspension compressor is a known weak point so look out for a receipt for that and check suspension raises/lowers correctly.
Make sure the car sits evenly and doesn't lean to one side - suspension airbags can fail - not an expensive fix.
Nice to have a receipt for gearbox oil change, and ideally diff's and transfer box oils too.
Check tyres, both in terms of brand and signs of uneven wear, the latter common on the front's.
Mine is booked in for a service in October, new front discs/pads (very slight brake judder at motorway speeds) - Brembo from ECP £185 all in for discs/pads/wear sensor which I think is very reasonable.
Also a wheel bearing, probably n/s/f as there is a faint hum once above 50mph.
I had a couple of random error messages on the dash at startup earlier in the start of the week & flashing EPB light, the following morning the battery was dead
- new Bosch battery £140 from ECP, all is now well.I was like you in that I've always wanted to own one so took the plunge - go for it!
DM me if you want any more info.
Cheers,
Chris
DBA086 said:
My only disappointment was the lack of space- it is surprisingly small inside for such a big car.
Indeed I had to suffer the ignominy of having a lift in one - the wife made him get rid of it as it left them stranded twiceI have no idea why people find them attractive, diseasel, bloated, don't stop and don't go
Apparently they are "aspirational" but they are ultimate chav wagon
Dash to 60 in under 8 seconds can harder be described as "don't go", you're expectations must be ridiculous.
I've noticed the 4.4 with the ZF 8 speed creeping lower and lower to the point where it's getting difficult to ignore, even the Autobiography and Westminster trims are approaching 10k.
Edited by ChocolateFrog on Monday 7th September 17:45
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