New Motor Trader - Advice on Auctions Needed!!
New Motor Trader - Advice on Auctions Needed!!
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IAY

Original Poster:

74 posts

78 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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Hi,

I am looking for advice/recommendations on the best auction for a new motor trader to buy from?

For example, which would be the best auction to buy good, low to average mileage, 1 to 2 owner German prestige cars from say £0-£10k and the best auction to buy cars from £10k to £20k (both normal, everyday cars and sports/performance cars).

Any advice or recommendations alongside what type of things to consider/lookout for would greatly be appreciated.

I am new and will appreciate any help you can give me.

Many Thanks & Seasons Greetings to you all!

whp1983

1,359 posts

167 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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I’m not a trader but have a look at collectingcars.com lots of well cared for stuff goes through at good prices.

I recently sold my S3 through them.... it went for a price I was happy with as it was hassle free but whoever bought it could definitely sell it for more if they were willing to wait for right buyer and in case of trader offer warranty or service with it etc etc




itcaptainslow

4,681 posts

164 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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whp1983 said:
I’m not a trader but have a look at collectingcars.com lots of well cared for stuff goes through at good prices.

I recently sold my S3 through them.... it went for a price I was happy with as it was hassle free but whoever bought it could definitely sell it for more if they were willing to wait for right buyer and in case of trader offer warranty or service with it etc etc
CC seems to be a decent platform for a seller but a potential minefield for a buyer. It very much depends on the transparency of the seller in how accurate their description is and how honest they want to be.

Its Just Adz

18,723 posts

237 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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With complete honesty, are you sure you have thought this through?

Why set up a new business as a motor trader if you aren't sure where to but cars from, or even what sort to buy?

rallycross

13,736 posts

265 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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you wont make any money buying cars from auctions unless know what you are doing 110%.

Easternlight

3,916 posts

172 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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whp1983

1,359 posts

167 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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itcaptainslow said:
CC seems to be a decent platform for a seller but a potential minefield for a buyer. It very much depends on the transparency of the seller in how accurate their description is and how honest they want to be.
The same as any auction I guess.... CC checked my service history with immense detail along with a pro photographer to pick out blemishes etc... I’d buy from them too.

Chubbyross

4,965 posts

113 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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I’m sorry but if I was seriously thinking about starting a business I’d like to think my research would go a little deeper than an online car forum.

996TT02

3,342 posts

168 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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Please help me. I need advice on how to make lots of money. Where do I go and what do I do?

itcaptainslow

4,681 posts

164 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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whp1983 said:
itcaptainslow said:
CC seems to be a decent platform for a seller but a potential minefield for a buyer. It very much depends on the transparency of the seller in how accurate their description is and how honest they want to be.
The same as any auction I guess.... CC checked my service history with immense detail along with a pro photographer to pick out blemishes etc... I’d buy from them too.
I wouldn’t disagree smile

av185

20,464 posts

155 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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You will only be able to buy from the big two auctions by opening a trade account for which you will have to provide proof of trade insurance which in the case of BCA will have to have minimum 90 days remaining.

Indemnity fees are your biggest initial problem as these are steep for the first years purchases (e.g. c £600 on a £9k car until you buy in excess of c12 cars per year and qualify for some indemnity discount and other benefits.

Physical auctions are unlikely to return even Covid free so you are buying online blind and whilst cars are graded there are huge differences in quality which is less significant for the big volume buyers compared to small volume buyers.

This has made grade 3 and above cars very expensive and grade 4 and below too risky many of which require major work often not reflected in the high prices achieved. Depending on the vendors many cars have hidden problems and bargains are increasingly rare.

Good luck you will need it especially in the current environment.


av185

20,464 posts

155 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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996TT02 said:
Please help me. I need advice on how to make lots of money. Where do I go and what do I do?
biglaugh

blue_haddock

5,003 posts

95 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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Have you even worked in the trade before or do you just think selling cars is a quick way to make easy money?

Because if you are having to ask these kind of questions it would seem you have not the faintest idea.

bangerhoarder

784 posts

96 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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The edges of the trade that you may well want to work in at present seem to operate on who you know. Connections made over many years - 20+ (and those I know in the trade are still young). The auctions seem to be real minefield, making it extremely difficult to even break even unless you know exactly what you’re buying.


Traders that I know are buying stuff which does not attract a premium market at all - second hand and German often means warranty hassle.

Jag_NE

3,334 posts

128 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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The barriers to entry are just too low.

Some local lads on FB seem to turnover lots of hacks but I think you need a bit of muscle to contend with the inevitable fallout from selling knackered cars!

AlexRS2782

8,506 posts

241 months

Thursday 24th December 2020
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Easternlight said:
Yep, 3rd thread in a month from OP around the same subject.:

1st thread - https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
2nd thread - https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Trevor555

5,386 posts

112 months

Thursday 24th December 2020
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OP, go and get a job working in a dealership for a year or so to learn about all of this.

I worked in the trade for 10 years before I felt I had enough knowledge/experience/contacts, to start my own business.

bennno

15,206 posts

297 months

Thursday 24th December 2020
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Can anybody recommend best place to buy trade insurance at reasonable price, for part time / car sales trading.

Trevor555

5,386 posts

112 months

Thursday 24th December 2020
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bennno said:
Can anybody recommend best place to buy trade insurance at reasonable price, for part time / car sales trading.
I used A class insurance 01227 366904

bennno

15,206 posts

297 months

Thursday 24th December 2020
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Trevor555 said:
bennno said:
Can anybody recommend best place to buy trade insurance at reasonable price, for part time / car sales trading.
I used A class insurance 01227 366904
Thank you, roughly what does premium cost?