Help with Cat N car for sale

[ST270]

I have run a HPI check on a BMW 6 series which is recorded at Cat N...

Spoke with private seller he says that it was rear cosmetic damage only - yet doesn't have a photos of damage depsite the write off occuring in August 2020?

The HPI returns that it was recorded at CAT N - fine

It also shows there is outstanding finance though and to a car with another VIN.... plot thickens.

The car has had a number of Private registrations and the outstanding finance relates to the previous reg on the car for sale yet with the different VIN

Car is a BMW 640d (current on AT if anyone interested in checking it out @ £16,495 / Reg CS07PAR / Very well specced but i am thinking there is a reason for the competiitve price.

I am thinking walk away due to the numerous factors, would be interested to know any of your feedback though!

Cheers

[barryrs]

Might be worth checking with https://www.vcheck.uk/

They hold salvage auction data so may have some info.

[The Rotrex Kid]

Current owner since Jan this year, tinted numberplates, no photos of damage.

It’s a pass from me!

[ZX10R NIN]

As above do a Vcheck you'll normally get photos of the damage.

[ZX10R NIN]

Also get the car inspected as at that price point you don't want to end up with a pup.

[anonymous-user]

Would would you ignore all those alarm bells for the sake of a 'competitive price'?

They've even gone to the trouble of hiding the CAT N status on the advert with the plate change.

Seriously - keep running

[ST270]

Ah not ignoring the alarm bells, was merely checking re the cat n classification, have never checked a car before which was recorded... It does say in description that it's cat n... It was the other things like vin, registration and finance which surprised me more.

What was amusing was how insistant the seller was of the repair and mint condition, he even offered to pay for my fuel to go and see it!

[pavarotti1980]

ST270 said:

Ah not ignoring the alarm bells, was merely checking re the cat n classification, have never checked a car before which was recorded... It does say in description that it's cat n... It was the other things like vin, registration and finance which surprised me more.

What was amusing was how insistant the seller was of the repair and mint condition, he even offered to pay for my fuel to go and see it!

Tell him you are coming by private jet and your fuel bill will be £16,000. At least you wont be out of pocket too much then

[Car_driver]

I'd say the seller isn't trustworthy.

Here is some information I found (maybe call the previous seller).

Not that it's a biggie, but the MOT is up in 2 weeks.

[Hazuki]

Car_driver said:

I'd say the seller isn't trustworthy.

Here is some information I found (maybe call the previous seller).

Not that it's a biggie, but the MOT is up in 2 weeks.

Cazana, never knew they did a previously seen adverts bit - very interesting!

[Pixelpeep Z4]

Something fishy.

it was for sale on 13th December 2020 for £15,995 at 29,500 miles
it was for sale on 13th Jan 2021 for £32,490 with 38,000 miles.
it was then for sale 23rd May 2021 for £17,995 with 30,000 miles
then 13th june, 30,000 miles at £16,995

[Wagonwheel555]

After reading this thread. Nope nope nope and nope again.

Move on

[ST270]

Thanks for the replies - an update for anyone interested...

So the seller whatsapp me today a video of the car and he did his own car check showing there was no outstanding finance on the car proclaiming he paid cash for it in Jan / Feb this year.

I asked again for the reason it was CAT N any photos of damage etc - he said it was scratches / damage on the bumper (why that would write of a low milage expensive car i don't know)

Anyway I ran a V Check (thanks to those who recommended this!) Photos of the car are there from the salvage co and yes it does have scrathes but it also has a towing eye fitted at the rear with the next photo showing it has water in the engine!!

I wasn't going to purchase the car but i was intrigued as to why the seller was so keen for me to view the car... Lucky escape for me next person may not be!

[TroubledSoul]

ST270 said:

The car has had a number of Private registrations and the outstanding finance relates to the previous reg on the car for sale yet with the different VIN

Happens a lot with private plates. It will refer to another car that that plate has been/is on.

[ST270]

TroubledSoul said:

Happens a lot with private plates. It will refer to another car that that plate has been/is on.

Good to know - thanks

[bigandclever]

Good thread.

[Car_driver]

Hazuki said:

Car_driver said:

I'd say the seller isn't trustworthy.

Here is some information I found (maybe call the previous seller).

Not that it's a biggie, but the MOT is up in 2 weeks.

Cazana, never knew they did a previously seen adverts bit - very interesting!

Yes, it's pretty cool, but doesn't work on all cars. Also, I somehow got 2 cazana accounts which show up information in different ways. The screenshot I posted came from https://cazana.com/uk/vehicle-check

However, if I search on

https://trade.cazana.com

I can see the dates of keeper changes and plate changes.
For this car it shows
YF15XZK to XZ6012 on 13.12.2015
Then back to YF15XZK on 27.08.2019
Then to CS07PAR  on 23.09.2019
Then to Y11OUT on 29.11.2019
Then to CS07PAR again on 7.09.2020

It probably isn't such a bad car, more of a bad seller.

[babelfish]

Car_driver said:

It probably isn't such a bad car, more of a bad seller.

ST270 said:

but it also has a towing eye fitted at the rear with the next photo showing it has water in the engine!!

[ilikejam]

The reg number sounds like it's trying to be a bit too much like 'Copart' for my liking!