Confession I bought a Honda Jazz CVT
Confession I bought a Honda Jazz CVT
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Hugo Stiglitz

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41,014 posts

237 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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And I'm happy, it was bought for my shifts. Tired, get in, drive. Stop. Go. Park. It's efficient, small yet spacious enough so I don't struggle to park.

It's soooo relaxing as it doesn't set off like a missile. So I don't get antsy when held up.

It's also going to be reliable. So no bi-weekly Google and ringing the garage visiting on my days off.

The fun car is going to be a Clio 182. That I'll spend time fixing.


Am I mad?

L_G

173 posts

60 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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I quite liked the other half's mk 1 Jazz, although the short gearing of fifth made longer journeys on motorways a bit tiresome.

Much better than the Corsa which replaced it when somebody 'helpful' wrote it off while negligently manoeuvring in a car park

georgeyboy12345

4,478 posts

61 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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Might be a bit less relaxing when it’s relieved of its cats by some scrotes

Hugo Stiglitz

Original Poster:

41,014 posts

237 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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georgeyboy12345 said:
Might be a bit less relaxing when it’s relieved of its cats by some scrotes
MK3 is very difficult to steal as the Cat is practically in the engine bay.

Monkeylegend

28,705 posts

257 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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My neighbour bought one about 3 months ago, very comfortable, quite spacious with the seats down, drives nicely and as you say relaxing with the CVT.

Has been reliable so far but has only done about 35k miles in 8 years.

Oh did I mention he is 85 this year hehe

anonymous-user

80 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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I am still looking for a cheap, small auto and there seems to be a lot of these about due to the initial buying demographic liking an auto.

What year did you go for and what is it like to drive?

I have totally dismissed getting a DSG so it is either a CVT or a traditional Torque Converter. The issue with the Torque Converter is that there are not that common and tend to be the ancient four speed gearbox.


Hugo Stiglitz

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41,014 posts

237 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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It's a 2018, it steers fine and is nimble but I went for the 1.5vtec. I managed to get it 2k under currently what they are advertised.

I'd have happily gone for a 1.3 EX but they seem to hold strong money back to 66 plate. So for 1k more I went for the 1.5.

Edited by Hugo Stiglitz on Thursday 15th July 16:38

Mr Tidy

30,338 posts

153 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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I got a Jazz auto as a rental car in Cyprus back in 2009, and I was surprised just how good it was!

coldclimate

49 posts

148 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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I love a Jazz, I've had three. Put a million miles on the first one, broke the second one, thrid one going strong other than a battery problem right now.

As a practical daily driver with a strange amount of space (I'm sure it's a tardis) it can't be beated. Leave it in 3rd and it's fun enough at times too.

MrGTI6

3,281 posts

156 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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Monkeylegend said:
My neighbour bought one about 3 months ago, very comfortable, quite spacious with the seats down, drives nicely and as you say relaxing with the CVT.

Has been reliable so far but has only done about 35k miles in 8 years.

Oh did I mention he is 85 this year hehe
I believe that is just below the average age of a Jazz owner.

The CVTs get slated in these, which is very unfair in my opinion. They are lovely and smooth and can pull away quite briskly whilst staying at very low revs. Sure, they're not great if you're driving flat out everywhere, but who buys a Honda Jazz for that anyway?

Hugo Stiglitz

Original Poster:

41,014 posts

237 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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If the name was different would it be more universaly popular as in other countries?

Don Roque

18,256 posts

185 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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It's called the Honda Fit in other areas. I think 'Jazz' is a good name, being the most harmonically complex music out there.

I used to have a Jazz Hybrid, which was equipped with a CVT. It was a fantastic car. Perfect for jumping into after a long shift and knowing it would get you home. In the four years I had it the only that ever went wrong was the brake switch, which cost £60 to supply and replace. I used it as a minivan on a number of occasions, did some big trips in it and enjoyed insanely low running costs. Pennies to insure, brakes and tyres all very cheap. The only thing it wasn't very good at was reversing up kerbs; there was always a slight hesitation as to wondered just how quickly the CVT was going to react and provide power. What little power it did have, it delivered quite quickly off the line.

Overall, a really good car for what I wanted it for. With a manual box it could have been quite fun as it had a decent chassis on. I also had a motorbike for fun at the time so my purchase of the Honda was based totally on practicality.

juice

9,668 posts

308 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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I really very fond of ours. Mine's an 07 'Sport' hehe that is used for commuting to Bristol and takes our 2 dogs out on walks.

It's disgusting inside but that was the reason for getting it...to stop the other cars getting messed up and the fact that the magic seats make a perfect spot for them to be driven round in.


Sheepshanks

39,918 posts

145 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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The image thing is a bit strange here - in some APAC countries they’ve driven by young lads and are extensively modified.

One of my daughters has had one from new (2014 model). Her first car was Mitsubishi Colt and Jazz is pretty well the same thing - but 2x the cost. Jazz’s magic seats are brilliant but Colt had a sliding rear seat so could have insane rear legroom!

Biggest issue she’s had is the dealer is terrible - the old indie dealers used to look after you and that must have helped the brand with referral business.

Hugo Stiglitz

Original Poster:

41,014 posts

237 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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Sheepshanks said:
The image thing is a bit strange here - in some APAC countries they’ve driven by young lads and are extensively modified.

One of my daughters has had one from new (2014 model). Her first car was Mitsubishi Colt and Jazz is pretty well the same thing - but 2x the cost. Jazz’s magic seats are brilliant but Colt had a sliding rear seat so could have insane rear legroom!

Biggest issue she’s had is the dealer is terrible - the old indie dealers used to look after you and that must have helped the brand with referral business.
You can also remap the engine!

AmitG

3,501 posts

186 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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IMHO the Jazz is very under-rated in the UK. It has the image of being a boring pensioner wagon for Doris who drives half a mile to the shops every day and knows nothing about cars. Of course they are bought mainly by older people, because of the size, the driving position and the reliability, but that does not make them boring. IMHO they are a very clever piece of automotive packaging. The latest one is only 4m long yet apparently has more interior legroom than a SWB S-class. Two people, each 6 foot 4 (190cm), can sit behind each other and be comfortable, with knee room and head room to spare. That is impressive. The "magic seats" create a huge rear load space for transporting upright objects - there was once a farmer who famously used it for transporting Shetland ponies.

It's a highly practical car at a time when most manufacturers have abandoned practicality in favour of gimmicks. Yes, it will never set a Ring record but for what it aims to do it's brilliant.

I have always liked cars with clever engineering, regardless of market segment. I find myself weirdly attracted to the Jazz as my next car.

Hugo Stiglitz

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41,014 posts

237 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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I sat in the back last night behind the drivers seat to demonstrate the space to Mrs Stiglitz. Im 6ft2. Seat all the way back and I had a good 6-7 inches knee room whilst sat in the back. That is very impressive to me.

RizzoTheRat

28,508 posts

218 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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My wife had a Mk2 manual (the autos of that era apparently weren't great) and was a brilliant car. Cost buttons to run, never went wrong, Tardis like on the inside, scarily easy to park (genuinely scary, as in I'd be curling my toes in the passenger seat thinking she's about to hit something, because it was so much shorter than my car), space to fit a 6' passenger in the back. Only real downside is it wasn't that comfortable for a long motorway trip

Jader1973

4,975 posts

226 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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One of my pals has a manual which was specifically bought to use in a under $3k 1500cc max racing series.

It is wrapped with his company logo and has a few home brew “performance” mods and a straight through 2 inch exhaust. He seems happy with it smile

cj2013

1,409 posts

152 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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Slightly obscure reference for our more cultured members biggrin







CVT is great for comfort though - I never really understood why people moan so much about them.