Friend having issue after selling to a small trader
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My friend recently purchased a vehicle and has had nothing but issues with it from day one. He’s quite handy with a spanner and botched a couple of issues before selling it to a trader. He ended up £500 up so he was happy.
2 weeks later the trader has sold the car and has been in touch to say that the buyer has returned it for a full refund. The trader is trying to get money out of my friend and is persistent. He’s threatened him with court action and is trying to pull every trick in the book.
My friend told me the trader looked over the car for 15 minutes but didn’t drive it (thankfully for my friend). The trader was happy with the car at the time of sale. My friend openly admitted to me that he did not disclose any of the issues and told the trader he was getting a company car.
Does the trader have a leg to stand on ?
2 weeks later the trader has sold the car and has been in touch to say that the buyer has returned it for a full refund. The trader is trying to get money out of my friend and is persistent. He’s threatened him with court action and is trying to pull every trick in the book.
My friend told me the trader looked over the car for 15 minutes but didn’t drive it (thankfully for my friend). The trader was happy with the car at the time of sale. My friend openly admitted to me that he did not disclose any of the issues and told the trader he was getting a company car.
Does the trader have a leg to stand on ?
x5tuu said:
Trader buys a lemon and expects the same sort of protection as if they were a buyer purchasing from a trader … don’t believe that they will have a leg to stand on
Yes that’s what I thought. Just wanted my make before telling my friend. He’s not too worried about it but isn’t that familiar with the traders rights This has to be a wind up, a trader buys and then sells a dodgy car and now wants money back from the private seller they acquired the car from
Hilarious, if there really is a trader that stupid to be making threatening calls I'd be reporting them the the police and blocking the number.
Hilarious, if there really is a trader that stupid to be making threatening calls I'd be reporting them the the police and blocking the number.
aka_kerrly said:
This has to be a wind up, a trader buys and then sells a dodgy car and now wants money back from the private seller they acquired the car from
Hilarious, if there really is a trader that stupid to be making threatening calls I'd be reporting them the the police and blocking the number.
The trader is just trying to put my friend under pressure to pay up. I understand he has a a business to run but he should have inspected the car better. I feel a bit bad for the trader but happy for my friend to get all his cash back. Hilarious, if there really is a trader that stupid to be making threatening calls I'd be reporting them the the police and blocking the number.
It sounds like he knew he was selling a bit of a lemon, on that basis why not offer to give a gesture if good will, maybe £500 to help the trader put it right.
You do hear people say they had endless problems with a car so traded it in, I guess traders must know this but they too need to put food on the table.
You do hear people say they had endless problems with a car so traded it in, I guess traders must know this but they too need to put food on the table.
Caddyshack said:
It sounds like he knew he was selling a bit of a lemon, on that basis why not offer to give a gesture if good will, maybe £500 to help the trader put it right.
You do hear people say they had endless problems with a car so traded it in, I guess traders must know this but they too need to put food on the table.
You cannot be serious? Do you want to buy some magic beans? You do hear people say they had endless problems with a car so traded it in, I guess traders must know this but they too need to put food on the table.
Flibble said:
Trader is expected to be more knowledgeable than the seller so the onus is on him to not buy a lemon.
A private sale can still lead to misrepresentation, in what the advert says and reponse to questions asked by the trader. It sounds like the op story the seller may have been untruthful, leading the trader to buy.I shared a unit with 2 traders a few years back. Car issues were getting so complicated and expensive on modern cars they reckoned they only made a profit on EDIT 1 out of 4 cars, and in the end they both jacked it in. Its become a harder game these days than people realise
Edited by wsn03 on Monday 4th October 20:45
normalbloke said:
What sort of issues did the car have that your friend managed to sort out?
The issues were as follows:- Incorrect second key
- Gearbox whine when the car reaches 70 mph
-Reverse gear crunches intermittently
- Engine oil leak which required a new sump
- Heater only works on setting 3 and 4
- vibrations when driving the car. (Bushes)
- air conditioning doesn’t work.
The car is a a 2013 Vauxhall Mokka.
Captainfred said:
The issues were as follows:
- Incorrect second key
- Gearbox whine when the car reaches 70 mph
-Reverse gear crunches intermittently
- Engine oil leak which required a new sump
- Heater only works on setting 3 and 4
- vibrations when driving the car. (Bushes)
- air conditioning doesn’t work.
The car is a a 2013 Vauxhall Mokka.
What did the advert say, and what did your 'friend' tell the trader?- Incorrect second key
- Gearbox whine when the car reaches 70 mph
-Reverse gear crunches intermittently
- Engine oil leak which required a new sump
- Heater only works on setting 3 and 4
- vibrations when driving the car. (Bushes)
- air conditioning doesn’t work.
The car is a a 2013 Vauxhall Mokka.
Matt_E_Mulsion said:
It doesn't matter who he sold it to, he's stuffed someone over with a right lemon by my reckoning. Just because it was a motor trader doesn't justify it in my book, it's all a bit immoral.
Give over, anyone paying £500 for a 2013 car knows exactly what they are getting into, especially a trader!!You have the letter of the law in your favour as the dealer is presumed to be 'expert' or more knowledgeable than Joe Public but it wasn't a fair deal, the price wasn't adjusted to reflect the true condition of the vehicle. I don't think it reflects well on your friend.
Still what goes around comes around so when your friend gets stiffed at some point in the future, your friend should take it gracefully on the chin or in the wallet.
Still what goes around comes around so when your friend gets stiffed at some point in the future, your friend should take it gracefully on the chin or in the wallet.
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