320d/320i estate or.....

[jason61c]

I've an EV coming, so looking at changing the other car in the house(2017 civic tdi 80k).

She wants something that feels a little more 'solid'. So was thinking a4/3 series or 5.

The 3 series estate floats her boat. milage is about 10k a year.

any others?

[ahenners]

What's the budget?

[jason61c]

£27.5

[Mo28]

330e Estate?

[jason61c]

Don’t want the reduced boot capacity or extra complexity really.

[georgeyboy12345]

Audi offerings

A4 Avant TFSI
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202109016...

A5 TFSI
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202108085...


BMW offerings

320i Touring
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202108126...


420i GranCoupe xDrive
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202109137...


Mercedes offerings

C200 estate
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202109087...


CLA200 estate
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202109117...


Other stuff that could be worth a look

Volvo V60 T5
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202109077...


Jaguar XF Sportbrake P250
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110058...


VW Passat estate 1.8 TSI
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110028...


Infiniti Q30 2.0 Turbo
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202109167...


Alfa Romeo Giulietta TB Speciale
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110158...

[jason61c]

its got to be an estate so its dog friendly.

ideally the a4/3 series size.

Thanks!

[InitialDave]

The 3 series is good, but I'd get a 6 pot rather than a 4.

[fflump]

InitialDave said:

The 3 series is good, but I'd get a 6 pot rather than a 4.

I'd agree at that budget. Also xDrive worth considering.

[jason61c]

there's no need for the 6 pot for the driver........

[ZX10R NIN]

V60 Inscription

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202106183...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202108106...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202109077...

Inscription Pro

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202109297...

XF Portfolio

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110058...

R Sport

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110048...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202107205...

Passat R Line

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110148...

GTE

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202108246...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202107225...

[ahenners]

Don't spend £27.5k or close on an F30 based car. Prior to this mad market that would have been enough for an 320i/d G21 3 series, but now I'm not sure it is, they seem to be £30k+. Spending almost new generation 3 series money on a 9 year old generation of 3 series seems crazy to me.

Edited by ahenners on Wednesday 20th October 13:45

[markymark34]

ZX10R NIN said:

V60 Inscription

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202106183...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202108106...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202109077...

Inscription Pro

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202109297...

XF Portfolio

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110058...

R Sport

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110048...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202107205...

Passat R Line

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110148...

GTE

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202108246...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202107225...

Loving the interior of the Volvo. Difficult to say in current climate but do you thinkthe Volvo lose a lot more money than a Merc / Audi or BMW from this price point over say 3 years?

[ZX10R NIN]

markymark34 said:

Loving the interior of the Volvo. Difficult to say in current climate but do you thinkthe Volvo lose a lot more money than a Merc / Audi or BMW from this price point over say 3 years?

The German cars depreciate less is a bit of a myth nowdays (especially on the white goods models) thing is that the Volvo/ etc are cheaper to buy new than the equivalent German spec for spec & BHP for BHP, so yes they'll be worth less but you'll be paying less so the depreciation is relative.

Depreciation will always be there, most modern cars are pretty reliable these days so cars depreciate at similar rates especially when you're talking about the 2.0T/D engines.

I'd say buy the best mix of Mileage/Spec/BHP/Age & of course price, then look at the badge.

[jason61c]

its actually quite a tough segment to choose a car.

I want her to 'want' a Toyota Corolla so it stays in warranty forever....

these are current favourites

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202109177...

and

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202109097...


Mad thing is a 5 series is about £28k with the same spec and late 2018/early 19.

[jason61c]

this looks nice

https://selekt.volvocars.co.uk/en/used-cars/volvo/...

[Mr Tidy]

jason61c said:

there's no need for the 6 pot for the driver........

There may not be, but they generally seem to have far fewer issues!

[jason61c]

Mr Tidy said:

There may not be, but they generally seem to have far fewer issues!

what are the issues with the 4 pot. I thought it was fairly robust?

[scot_aln]

ahenners said:

Don't spend £27.5k or close on an F30 based car. Prior to this mad market that would have been enough for an 320i/d G21 3 series, but now I'm not sure it is, they seem to be £30k+. Spending almost new generation 3 series money on a 9 year old generation of 3 series seems crazy to me.

Edited by ahenners on Wednesday 20th October 13:45

I know it's mentioned a lot but hadn't appreciated how much the F30 range had gone up in price. I'd assumed G20 was what was at this price point. September 2019 320d F31 MSports on 68 plates (not shadow edition) were available at £20-£21.5k. Found the email trail negotiating with Soper BMW before we switched and bought a slightly older 330d.

[jason61c]

Its basically held its value. what milage was that?

The newer ones are a bit more fussy and with the MHT stuff, just more complex.

I've no idea what the market in general is going to do, which doesn't help.