Golf GTD replacement, R?
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Hi so our Golf GTD was written off the other week when a distracted driver drove straight head on into my partner, (all ok allbeit a little sore).
I have posted the pics in the relevent area and will post the dash cam video shortly too now the claim is nearly settled.
I'm now running the maths, man maths and any other calculations I can to work out the replacement.
My partner wants a Golf..... So a golf she will get, that is a given we cannot change and currently her mileage is 16/17k a year so the GTD did make sense.
I had no intention of replacing her golf for a good few years and could not convince her to get an estate to change the dynamics for us and cars.
We have 3 foster kids and one 18 year old who will have her own car soon, but the school run etc for hr gives the mileage.
We did have a caravan but didnt fit the now dynamics, hence I have a Q7 which is irrelevant to all of this but may sadly go soon.
My partner passed her test in March 2020 and the car I got her was a lovely C4 Grand Picasso, 63 reg facelift and was lovely great spec (more than my 80k list Q7) etc but was just too big for her and she just could not get confident in it hence getting a Golf and boom what she wanted.
I have tried to get her to go for an estate but nope...... Golf hatch and thats it and we all know, happy wife happy life.
I have convinced her that maybe a GTI or an R will do though (woopee), ive had mental 2 door impreza's and many cars with big power since I was a kid.
The search on here is not great and even searching on net doesnt help much too.
Ive worked out that basically worst average mpg for our commute is 50/40/30 for GTD/GTI/R so £450-£750 a year on fuel and maybe an increase of approx £300 for ins and a bit more for tax depending on this £40k list price nonsence.
She wants Oryx white which is an issue and have convinced her to look at white silver too.
Can anyone please give me some info on real world running cost differences and things to look out for or avoid on a golf r as ive been through many pages but you cant beat the info from actual owners.
The budget is not an issue, I could get her a /MK8 but we both just dont like the styling and too much touch screen stuff so it will be a mk7.5 and I believe the approx 2018 310 bhp is the cream as they have the extra injectors before they were removed when the opf was added.
All info or help will be great please as normally i will do months of research etc but been thrown into a short schedule here.
Cheers Gav
I have posted the pics in the relevent area and will post the dash cam video shortly too now the claim is nearly settled.
I'm now running the maths, man maths and any other calculations I can to work out the replacement.
My partner wants a Golf..... So a golf she will get, that is a given we cannot change and currently her mileage is 16/17k a year so the GTD did make sense.
I had no intention of replacing her golf for a good few years and could not convince her to get an estate to change the dynamics for us and cars.
We have 3 foster kids and one 18 year old who will have her own car soon, but the school run etc for hr gives the mileage.
We did have a caravan but didnt fit the now dynamics, hence I have a Q7 which is irrelevant to all of this but may sadly go soon.
My partner passed her test in March 2020 and the car I got her was a lovely C4 Grand Picasso, 63 reg facelift and was lovely great spec (more than my 80k list Q7) etc but was just too big for her and she just could not get confident in it hence getting a Golf and boom what she wanted.
I have tried to get her to go for an estate but nope...... Golf hatch and thats it and we all know, happy wife happy life.
I have convinced her that maybe a GTI or an R will do though (woopee), ive had mental 2 door impreza's and many cars with big power since I was a kid.
The search on here is not great and even searching on net doesnt help much too.
Ive worked out that basically worst average mpg for our commute is 50/40/30 for GTD/GTI/R so £450-£750 a year on fuel and maybe an increase of approx £300 for ins and a bit more for tax depending on this £40k list price nonsence.
She wants Oryx white which is an issue and have convinced her to look at white silver too.
Can anyone please give me some info on real world running cost differences and things to look out for or avoid on a golf r as ive been through many pages but you cant beat the info from actual owners.
The budget is not an issue, I could get her a /MK8 but we both just dont like the styling and too much touch screen stuff so it will be a mk7.5 and I believe the approx 2018 310 bhp is the cream as they have the extra injectors before they were removed when the opf was added.
All info or help will be great please as normally i will do months of research etc but been thrown into a short schedule here.
Cheers Gav
I enjoy my R.
Check for clutch slip on manual, chocolate clutches.
Check coolant / water pump replaced. Known issue on these cars and replaced under warranty. 700-1000 otherwise.
Haldex oil AND filter need attention- definitely after 3 years.
Reader’s car thread with other’s experiences here https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Check for clutch slip on manual, chocolate clutches.
Check coolant / water pump replaced. Known issue on these cars and replaced under warranty. 700-1000 otherwise.
Haldex oil AND filter need attention- definitely after 3 years.
Reader’s car thread with other’s experiences here https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Edited by brightmotiv on Friday 26th November 23:10
I think your mpg for the GTI/R as an average is 35mpg. Think GTI returns on average 2-3mpg better as FWD.
You can get 40+mpg if you set out to do it.
Maintenance is same across the range you won’t notice much difference across models. Just be aware thermostat and water pump will fail usually around ~£500-700 every 4-6years.
Golf R skip the manual as they seem to need replacing a lot as the can’t handle the power. Get a DSG it suits the car better and more potential in regards to remapping.
You can get 40+mpg if you set out to do it.
Maintenance is same across the range you won’t notice much difference across models. Just be aware thermostat and water pump will fail usually around ~£500-700 every 4-6years.
Golf R skip the manual as they seem to need replacing a lot as the can’t handle the power. Get a DSG it suits the car better and more potential in regards to remapping.
Are white cars still in fashion? I thought they became trendy when apple products were new, not so much any more.
Just get another Golf GTD.
A GTI will cost an extra £800 a year in fuel at the mileages she is doing. A Golf R will cost an extra £1500 a year in fuel.
If you want something different to a Golf, what about one of these?
Audi A3 2.0 TDI Quattro - basically the same car as the Golf GTD underneath, except this one has AWD
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202111159...
The F20 BMW 125d has a bit more power than a Golf GTD, plus RWD and better dynamically
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110288...
If you want Golf R levels of performance, but more like GTD levels of fuel economy, then what about a BMW 435D GranCoupe xDrive? A bit larger than a Golf, but not horrendously so
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202107235...
Just get another Golf GTD.
A GTI will cost an extra £800 a year in fuel at the mileages she is doing. A Golf R will cost an extra £1500 a year in fuel.
If you want something different to a Golf, what about one of these?
Audi A3 2.0 TDI Quattro - basically the same car as the Golf GTD underneath, except this one has AWD
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202111159...
The F20 BMW 125d has a bit more power than a Golf GTD, plus RWD and better dynamically
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110288...
If you want Golf R levels of performance, but more like GTD levels of fuel economy, then what about a BMW 435D GranCoupe xDrive? A bit larger than a Golf, but not horrendously so
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202107235...
Edited by georgeyboy12345 on Saturday 27th November 18:45
I'd say just get another GTD.
Or there's the.
Q30 Sport
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110198...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110168...
125d M Sport
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202111239...
D4 V40 R Design Lux
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110208...
Or there's the.
Q30 Sport
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110198...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110168...
125d M Sport
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202111239...
D4 V40 R Design Lux
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110208...
The manual is the unicorn Golf R. Rare and far more involving to drive than the boring autos. Worth more money than the plentiful autos too especially as the latest Golf R only sold as auto. The manual clutches are strong contrary to popular belief which really is an internet myth.
We run three on a company fleet and had no problems whatsoever.
We run three on a company fleet and had no problems whatsoever.
av185 said:
The manual is the unicorn Golf R. Rare and far more involving to drive than the boring autos. Worth more money than the plentiful autos too especially as the latest Golf R only sold as auto. The manual clutches are strong contrary to popular belief which really is an internet myth.
We run three on a company fleet and had no problems whatsoever.
It's not a myth. They're weak when tuned, I don't think that's really debatableWe run three on a company fleet and had no problems whatsoever.
HazzaT said:
It's not a myth. They're weak when tuned, I don't think that's really debatable
Anything is weaker when 'tuned'. So keep it stock then within manuf recommendations.There is a reason why a car manufacturers tune cars to certain limits and exactly why any remapping or tuning immediately clearly invalidates the warranty. The few cases of transmission problems occur when folks exceed the tolerances set by the manufacturer.
I picked up a 7.5 R a month ago so hopefully can add some info.
Previous fast cars include a 330 and a Cayman - The Golf is stock and would drive circles around both. Grip and acceleration is really good for the price point and it has genuine spilt personality, calm and sedate normal driving but potent when you want.
MPG average is currently 30.1 (dual carriageway and country road driving - 1000 miles)
I took out a VW all in 2 year plan on the Black Friday deal £600 for 2 years warranty, services, mot and road side assistance. Great value considering 1 year VW warranty on this car alone is £400 something.
It is a true all rounder with usable all weather performance capabilities, after a tune only superseded by metal twice the price or more (RS6, SVR, Macan/Cayenne turbos etc).
Previous fast cars include a 330 and a Cayman - The Golf is stock and would drive circles around both. Grip and acceleration is really good for the price point and it has genuine spilt personality, calm and sedate normal driving but potent when you want.
MPG average is currently 30.1 (dual carriageway and country road driving - 1000 miles)
I took out a VW all in 2 year plan on the Black Friday deal £600 for 2 years warranty, services, mot and road side assistance. Great value considering 1 year VW warranty on this car alone is £400 something.
It is a true all rounder with usable all weather performance capabilities, after a tune only superseded by metal twice the price or more (RS6, SVR, Macan/Cayenne turbos etc).
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