Elevated seating on "City" car?
Elevated seating on "City" car?
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ChodeGuy

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3 posts

53 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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Hello, does anyone know which of the following is the best car, that has the highest seating position/raised from the ground similar to a van?
It is a car for an elderly person, and they previously had a Toyota Yaris that is from around 2000-2005 I think. The shape is rectangular toward the back and does not slope downward. The reason they are changing is that the catalytic converter keeps getting stolen on the Toyota Yaris.

These are the three I have shortlisted for them that have the shape they wan't. Thanks for your help.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Up

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Panda

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Picanto (Although the shape is not as "rectangular)

SWoll

22,628 posts

286 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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Any reason why the catalytic converters wouldn't get stolen on the replacement car?

What's their budget?

cuprabob

19,301 posts

242 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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SWoll said:
Any reason why the catalytic converters wouldn't get stolen on the replacement car?
On some models the cat is close to the manifold and much more difficult to steal, unlike some others where they are located under the car and much easier to access.

PositronicRay

28,879 posts

211 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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Consider a Suzuki Ignis too.

A clever wee package.

georgeyboy12345

4,570 posts

63 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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SWoll said:
Any reason why the catalytic converters wouldn't get stolen on the replacement car?

What's their budget?
A lot of Japanese cars are particularly prone to catalytic converter theft, such as Toyota Yaris, Auris, Prius, Honda Accord, Civic IMA, Jazz Hybrid, Insight, Lexus RX350/450h, etc

A500leroy

8,274 posts

146 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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Panda is quite high ( i have one) even better if you go for the cross or 4x4.

Whataguy

1,130 posts

108 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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The Toyota Yaris Mk1 hybrid has the cat in the engine bay I believe. Fairly high seating position with the seat up.

They are fine up to around 50mph but a bit slow above that.

They were sold in reasonable numbers, so you may find one at a good price - if servicing is done by Toyota they extend the warranty too.

colin79666

2,205 posts

141 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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Kia Soul EV? Van like seating and loading plus no cat to get nicked. Range isn’t great on 1st gens (60-100 miles with heating on) but fine for city driving if they have somewhere to charge it.

Ryyy

2,037 posts

63 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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I have a caddy which obviously drives like a van because it is but their is the caddy life which is the car version but is that too big? Its a very upright high chair position and would probably be the same in a touran. Touran may be higher because the seat bases themselves are higher than the caddys but it depends on the seats its self. Eg I have seat leon seats mounted on touran bases which sits me pretty much where I was with the original caddy set up smile

defblade

8,028 posts

241 months

Friday 1st April 2022
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PositronicRay said:
Consider a Suzuki Ignis too.

A clever wee package.
+1

ChodeGuy

Original Poster:

3 posts

53 months

Friday 1st April 2022
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I have shortlisted the Suzuki Ignis and Hyundai i10 to the list also.

The budget is below £12,000, but please include £15,000 options also if it's worth it.

Petrol, Manual, raised position and comfortable driving and passenger seats are top priority. Cheap to run, find parts for and reliability secondary but also important.

It only has to have 4 seats.

What would you guys say is the better choice between:

Volkswagen UP, Fiat Panda, Kia Picanto, Suzuki Ignis, Hyundai i10

Thanks for your help

Pica-Pica

16,452 posts

112 months

Friday 1st April 2022
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It all points to a Skoda Fabia. At risk of handing my PH badge in, it is probable the best car we have ever bought. Reliable, comfortable, cheap to run, easy to park. Not a ‘city car’ as such but still has a small foot-print and a spacious interior.

clockworks

7,486 posts

173 months

Friday 1st April 2022
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I've owned a Panda, Citigo (same as the Up!) and Picanto (almost the same as the i10).

Panda is a great cheap car. Mechanically sound, but a bit spartan inside, and not the best for comfort.

The VW group offerings are much more grown up, drive like a bigger car. Even the top trim levels are a bit basic though. Best for comfort.

Picanto is a good compromise between the two extremes. A bit cheaper than the Up!/Citigo/Mii, while having more kit, a better warranty, and being almost as good to drive. Top spec Picanto (GT Line S turbo) stands comparison with the Up! GTi, and includes a few toys that aren't even options on the VW.

For me, it would come down to budget. For a few grand, I'd take an older Panda. For five or six, I'd have Citigo. For (nearly) new, it'd be the Picanto.

I'm now driving a 2019 Abarth 595, the basic 145bhp model. As an everyday car, it's not as easy to live with as a VW or Kia. Much more fun though!

A500leroy

8,274 posts

146 months

Friday 1st April 2022
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ChodeGuy said:
I have shortlisted the Suzuki Ignis and Hyundai i10 to the list also.

The budget is below £12,000, but please include £15,000 options also if it's worth it.

Petrol, Manual, raised position and comfortable driving and passenger seats are top priority. Cheap to run, find parts for and reliability secondary but also important.

It only has to have 4 seats.

What would you guys say is the better choice between:

Volkswagen UP, Fiat Panda, Kia Picanto, Suzuki Ignis, Hyundai i10

Thanks for your help
Panda (4x4)
ignis
i10
picanto
up

(also consider a qubo)

clockworks

7,486 posts

173 months

Friday 1st April 2022
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Oh yeah - I forgot about the Fiat Qubo. I had one of those 12 years ago. Not a bad little car. Shame they never really updated it.

essayer

10,410 posts

222 months

Friday 1st April 2022
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Would they consider electric? No cat to nick smile

The Renault Zoe has high seats (654mm)

ScoobyChris

2,300 posts

230 months

Friday 1st April 2022
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Another vote for the Panda - my main complaint with the one I had was that the seating position was too high (which sounds exactly what you're after!). Had a Picanto as a hire car for a week and the spec was pretty good for that class of car, but the engine felt very underpowered, more so with the air con running and I don't remember the seating position being very upright.

The Up! might feel better screwed together, but my experience is this is fairly superficial and when things go wrong (and they will go wrong!) nothing will be cheap to fix.

Chris

edc

9,580 posts

279 months

Friday 1st April 2022
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At £15k try a Seat Arona. A jacked up SUV style small hatch.

mickyh7

2,347 posts

114 months

Friday 1st April 2022
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My wife has Renault Twingo 3
It's so tall, I struggle to wash the roof.
Great City car, really high seats.
Unbelievable turning circle, rear wheel drive.
Unfortunately less power than a Hamster.
Cost next to nothing though.

ChodeGuy

Original Poster:

3 posts

53 months

Saturday 2nd April 2022
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Thx for the info and help. I will get them to go to the local dealer of each brand to test them out.

Does anyone know why the Volkswagen UP does not rank as high as the other brands in terms of reliability and cost for parts e.t.c? I thought German manufacturing/engineering had a prestige? Is it because the model is a budget one, or is there inherently something "off" about the cheaper Volkswagens?