cool/fun large 4x4 with minimal depreciation? £20k?
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'My' EV is now the new family car and driven most by my long haired boss.
I've a toy car+bike for sunny Sundays etc, I'm thinking of replacing the old family car with something big and chunky. it'll do a little bit of towing, take the family+dog for walks on the moors, sit in train station car parks. Critically, most likely do 4-5k a year.
what should I consider?
https://www.highpeakautos.com/used-cars/toyota-lan...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255493553890?hash=item3...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125094461124?hash=item1...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/403451667087?hash=item5...
any ideas? something that's not really offensive, would eat a once a year 600mile round trip.
I've a toy car+bike for sunny Sundays etc, I'm thinking of replacing the old family car with something big and chunky. it'll do a little bit of towing, take the family+dog for walks on the moors, sit in train station car parks. Critically, most likely do 4-5k a year.
what should I consider?
https://www.highpeakautos.com/used-cars/toyota-lan...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255493553890?hash=item3...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125094461124?hash=item1...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/403451667087?hash=item5...
any ideas? something that's not really offensive, would eat a once a year 600mile round trip.
Edited by jason61c on Sunday 17th April 21:58
If you're only going to be doing low miles then an X5M makes a lot of sense when it comes to the fun side of things:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202112160...
At the other end of the scale is the full fat Range Rover with the V8d not a fun steer but a very nice place to be:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202204184...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202202112...
Somewhere in the middle of the two above is the Porsche Cayenne GTS:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202204064...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202204134...
Leftfield
5.0 V8 Infiniti FX these have pretty much done the worst of the depreciating & you get a newer car:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202112160...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202112160...
At the other end of the scale is the full fat Range Rover with the V8d not a fun steer but a very nice place to be:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202204184...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202202112...
Somewhere in the middle of the two above is the Porsche Cayenne GTS:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202204064...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202204134...
Leftfield
5.0 V8 Infiniti FX these have pretty much done the worst of the depreciating & you get a newer car:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202112160...
If you want a Landcruiser I’d get a nice 80 Series instead, yes they’re older but very tough, and reliable, will tow anything and are great off road, values are only going one way for decent ones too,up:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134057631128?hash=item1...
They do come up cheaper than that one, personally I’d try and get a decent condition standard one for about 10k that one is nice and has lots of extras on.
Some rough ones go for a lot less than even 10 k, personally I’d not worry about high miles or a few scuffs in one, main thing is the chassis is good and it’s been serviced.
The ones you linked originally are also great by the way but if I were spending that amount I’d want a full sized one over a Prado.
Also if you don’t really need the off road ability and don’t mind the poor MPG a Cayenne Turbo or X5M can’t be a bad shout.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134057631128?hash=item1...
They do come up cheaper than that one, personally I’d try and get a decent condition standard one for about 10k that one is nice and has lots of extras on.
Some rough ones go for a lot less than even 10 k, personally I’d not worry about high miles or a few scuffs in one, main thing is the chassis is good and it’s been serviced.
The ones you linked originally are also great by the way but if I were spending that amount I’d want a full sized one over a Prado.
Also if you don’t really need the off road ability and don’t mind the poor MPG a Cayenne Turbo or X5M can’t be a bad shout.
Edited by Walter Sobchak on Monday 18th April 16:07
Your brief is tough!
The station car park bit of your brief rules out a Series Land-Rover or Defender. You need a station car to still be there when your train arrives back. And you probably don’t want to spend 5 - 10 mins fitting the locks that might prevent this (when you’ve a train to catch).
The other hard bit of your brief is the 600 miles in comfort. Which rules out the double-cab pick ups (I’ll now prepare to annihilated by all those who think 600 miles in a leaf sprung pick up is nothing).
The Jeep Grand Cherokee mentioned previously in this thread is a good shout. Or for more space for dogs and family, how about seeking out an un-bling’ed Mercedes GL 350 or 500and fitting it with some purposeful tyres (such as Pirelli Scorpion ATR+) ?
A Land-Cruiser Amazon would be immense, but very high cost to purchase.
Let us know what you decide to go for. Good luck with it.
BTW, I had a not dissimilar brief 5 years ago which I answered with a 2004 L322 Range Rover V8. Which I love but most would probably avoid (maintenance has proved to be high commitment over the last 5 years and 36,000 miles).
The station car park bit of your brief rules out a Series Land-Rover or Defender. You need a station car to still be there when your train arrives back. And you probably don’t want to spend 5 - 10 mins fitting the locks that might prevent this (when you’ve a train to catch).
The other hard bit of your brief is the 600 miles in comfort. Which rules out the double-cab pick ups (I’ll now prepare to annihilated by all those who think 600 miles in a leaf sprung pick up is nothing).
The Jeep Grand Cherokee mentioned previously in this thread is a good shout. Or for more space for dogs and family, how about seeking out an un-bling’ed Mercedes GL 350 or 500and fitting it with some purposeful tyres (such as Pirelli Scorpion ATR+) ?
A Land-Cruiser Amazon would be immense, but very high cost to purchase.
Let us know what you decide to go for. Good luck with it.
BTW, I had a not dissimilar brief 5 years ago which I answered with a 2004 L322 Range Rover V8. Which I love but most would probably avoid (maintenance has proved to be high commitment over the last 5 years and 36,000 miles).
Walter Sobchak said:
If you want a Landcruiser I’d get a nice 80 Series instead, yes they’re older but very tough, and reliable, will tow anything and are great off road, values are only going one way for decent ones too,up:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134057631128?hash=item1...
They do come up cheaper than that one, personally I’d try and get a decent condition standard one for about 10k that one is nice and has lots of extras on.
Some rough ones go for a lot less than even 10 k, personally I’d not worry about high miles or a few scuffs in one, main thing is the chassis is good and it’s been serviced.
The ones you linked originally are also great by the way but if I were spending that amount I’d want a full sized one over a Prado.
Also if you don’t really need the off road ability and don’t mind the poor MPG a Cayenne Turbo or X5M can’t be a bad shout.
I'm on the look for one, however finding one that isn't being or has been converted is hard. I'd even have the previous generation.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134057631128?hash=item1...
They do come up cheaper than that one, personally I’d try and get a decent condition standard one for about 10k that one is nice and has lots of extras on.
Some rough ones go for a lot less than even 10 k, personally I’d not worry about high miles or a few scuffs in one, main thing is the chassis is good and it’s been serviced.
The ones you linked originally are also great by the way but if I were spending that amount I’d want a full sized one over a Prado.
Also if you don’t really need the off road ability and don’t mind the poor MPG a Cayenne Turbo or X5M can’t be a bad shout.
Edited by Walter Sobchak on Monday 18th April 16:07
Tom4398cc said:
Your brief is tough!
The station car park bit of your brief rules out a Series Land-Rover or Defender. You need a station car to still be there when your train arrives back. And you probably don’t want to spend 5 - 10 mins fitting the locks that might prevent this (when you’ve a train to catch).
The other hard bit of your brief is the 600 miles in comfort. Which rules out the double-cab pick ups (I’ll now prepare to annihilated by all those who think 600 miles in a leaf sprung pick up is nothing).
The Jeep Grand Cherokee mentioned previously in this thread is a good shout. Or for more space for dogs and family, how about seeking out an un-bling’ed Mercedes GL 350 or 500and fitting it with some purposeful tyres (such as Pirelli Scorpion ATR+) ?
A Land-Cruiser Amazon would be immense, but very high cost to purchase.
Let us know what you decide to go for. Good luck with it.
BTW, I had a not dissimilar brief 5 years ago which I answered with a 2004 L322 Range Rover V8. Which I love but most would probably avoid (maintenance has proved to be high commitment over the last 5 years and 36,000 miles).
Thanks, useful to see I'm not the only one! Good shout on the G-wagon. As I don't live in London they're not a common site and suit the area. I did think about a defender, it'd only be exter car park, so I wouldn't worry too much. £20k or less doesn't seem to get much, when compared to a land cruiser or patrol, which will eat a motorway trip with the family in much more comfort.The station car park bit of your brief rules out a Series Land-Rover or Defender. You need a station car to still be there when your train arrives back. And you probably don’t want to spend 5 - 10 mins fitting the locks that might prevent this (when you’ve a train to catch).
The other hard bit of your brief is the 600 miles in comfort. Which rules out the double-cab pick ups (I’ll now prepare to annihilated by all those who think 600 miles in a leaf sprung pick up is nothing).
The Jeep Grand Cherokee mentioned previously in this thread is a good shout. Or for more space for dogs and family, how about seeking out an un-bling’ed Mercedes GL 350 or 500and fitting it with some purposeful tyres (such as Pirelli Scorpion ATR+) ?
A Land-Cruiser Amazon would be immense, but very high cost to purchase.
Let us know what you decide to go for. Good luck with it.
BTW, I had a not dissimilar brief 5 years ago which I answered with a 2004 L322 Range Rover V8. Which I love but most would probably avoid (maintenance has proved to be high commitment over the last 5 years and 36,000 miles).
Range rovers scare me. I've never known anyone have a decent experience with one, possibly just a little glitzy looking also.
Walter Sobchak said:
If you want a Landcruiser I’d get a nice 80 Series instead, yes they’re older but very tough, and reliable, will tow anything and are great off road, values are only going one way for decent ones too,up:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134057631128?hash=item1...
They do come up cheaper than that one, personally I’d try and get a decent condition standard one for about 10k that one is nice and has lots of extras on.
Some rough ones go for a lot less than even 10 k, personally I’d not worry about high miles or a few scuffs in one, main thing is the chassis is good and it’s been serviced.
The ones you linked originally are also great by the way but if I were spending that amount I’d want a full sized one over a Prado.
Also if you don’t really need the off road ability and don’t mind the poor MPG a Cayenne Turbo or X5M can’t be a bad shout.
This one appeals.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134057631128?hash=item1...
They do come up cheaper than that one, personally I’d try and get a decent condition standard one for about 10k that one is nice and has lots of extras on.
Some rough ones go for a lot less than even 10 k, personally I’d not worry about high miles or a few scuffs in one, main thing is the chassis is good and it’s been serviced.
The ones you linked originally are also great by the way but if I were spending that amount I’d want a full sized one over a Prado.
Also if you don’t really need the off road ability and don’t mind the poor MPG a Cayenne Turbo or X5M can’t be a bad shout.
Edited by Walter Sobchak on Monday 18th April 16:07
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203193...
I'd have to remove the front bull bar though.
Jeep Grand Cherokee they're a simple drivetrain but rugged & reliable:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202204174...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203093...
Going back to Toyota's there's always the Lexus RX:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203093...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202204064...
Subaru Forester:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202111269...
Or for a quarter of your budget you could get a Subaru Tribeca:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203304...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202204174...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203093...
Going back to Toyota's there's always the Lexus RX:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203093...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202204064...
Subaru Forester:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202111269...
Or for a quarter of your budget you could get a Subaru Tribeca:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203304...
jason61c said:
This one appeals.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203193...
I'd have to remove the front bull bar though.
Yeah that’s a nice one by the look of it, there’s nothing wrong with the 100 Series, they’re equally tough and good, if a bit more modern than the 80 Series (the previous generation so 91-97 ish) only thing that goes is they have a non traditional suspension setup on the rear but it’s pretty easy to convert to coils and they don’t tend to fail that often anyway, not compared to air struts on an L322 for example.https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203193...
I'd have to remove the front bull bar though.
Personal preference for me, I like the 80 more but you can’t go wrong with either, they’re both very tough cars and will hold their money well.
Walter Sobchak said:
Yeah that’s a nice one by the look of it, there’s nothing wrong with the 100 Series, they’re equally tough and good, if a bit more modern than the 80 Series (the previous generation so 91-97 ish) only thing that goes is they have a non traditional suspension setup on the rear but it’s pretty easy to convert to coils and they don’t tend to fail that often anyway, not compared to air struts on an L322 for example.
Personal preference for me, I like the 80 more but you can’t go wrong with either, they’re both very tough cars and will hold their money well.
80 series is to 97-98?Personal preference for me, I like the 80 more but you can’t go wrong with either, they’re both very tough cars and will hold their money well.
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