One key with Cazoo
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anonymous-user

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82 months

Saturday 9th July 2022
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GolfDragon

294 posts

95 months

Saturday 9th July 2022
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I had this issue with CarShop. Just assumed it was standard to get two keys with a vehicle because all cars come with a spare.

Drove to Sheffield from South Wales to see a car. Was very interested, then they told me it only comes with one key. I wanted £300 off (that’s how much money Audi want to create a new key and program it). They flatly refused to knock £300 off the car despite being keen to do a deal so I walked away.

Since then I’ve learnt to always ask if it comes with a spare key and if not factor that cost into the budget.

(Also I don’t really trust CarShop after I eventually bought a car from another branch only to find the brakes were horrific on a motorway drive a few days after buying the car - so much for a 142 point inspection)

Dan W.

1,196 posts

106 months

Saturday 9th July 2022
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piddy44 said:
A lot of the cars advertised on Cazoo state that they come with one key & that any other keys will be provided on handover if available.

Wondered why? I'd have thought they would know the number of keys in their possession. It's an unwanted expenses for a new owner if they've just bought a new (to them) car.
Costs basically, they barely make £150 per car they cant afford to get another key.

Then again their cars are usually the cheapest in the country.

Red9zero

11,082 posts

85 months

Saturday 9th July 2022
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GolfDragon said:
I had this issue with CarShop. Just assumed it was standard to get two keys with a vehicle because all cars come with a spare.

Drove to Sheffield from South Wales to see a car. Was very interested, then they told me it only comes with one key. I wanted £300 off (that’s how much money Audi want to create a new key and program it). They flatly refused to knock £300 off the car despite being keen to do a deal so I walked away.

Since then I’ve learnt to always ask if it comes with a spare key and if not factor that cost into the budget.

(Also I don’t really trust CarShop after I eventually bought a car from another branch only to find the brakes were horrific on a motorway drive a few days after buying the car - so much for a 142 point inspection)
Carshop Swindon aren't much better. Very subdued lighting in the area where the cars are displayed so you don't notice any dirt or blemishes.

MitchT

17,112 posts

237 months

Saturday 9th July 2022
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Do the cars in question come with more than one key when they're new? If so then I'd want to know where the other one(s) had gone. If not then fine. Essentially, if I'm paying good money for a quality used car I'd expect it to include all the bits and pieces that had been delivered to the first owner.

Red9zero

11,082 posts

85 months

Saturday 9th July 2022
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Carshop pretty much made it a condition of sale that my px had both keys, handbooks etc. Then I felt they were doing me a favour by including the same with the car I was buying. I know they stack 'em high and sell 'em cheap, but it wasn't a positive experience.

austina35

394 posts

80 months

Sunday 10th July 2022
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As above. Cars never come with 1 key when new. I've gone to look at cars in the past and if they only have 1 key I either ask for £250 off the negotiating price (after I have haggled) or I walk away.

One particular seller accused me of wasting his time. I clearly pointed out that he had wasted my time as I had travelled to him. I asked where the other key was and he didn't know.

Rule 1 when buying a car. Make sure it comes with ALL the keys.

sixor8

8,401 posts

296 months

Sunday 10th July 2022
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I had a Suzuki Swift for over 2 years with only 1 key, not a problem. Just check the batteries in the fob occasionally.

Same with a Fiat Panda for over 3 years. Pricing in the possibility of needing one is wise though.

imdeman87

944 posts

135 months

Sunday 10th July 2022
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Some brand new cars (factory order) are coming with one key due to the shortage of raw materials (transponders/microchips). Owners are told they'll get a second key in due course. Are these cars relatively new on Cazoo?

austina35

394 posts

80 months

Sunday 10th July 2022
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Look at it another way. If you lost the only key you have, what do you think the cost will be if you had to have all new locks fitted plus 2 new keys and programming?

It's simple maths to buy a car with 2 keys to start with.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

82 months

Sunday 10th July 2022
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It seems most of Cazoo's stock says '1 key'. I wondered if it was an arse-covering exercise & many will actually come with the second key on delivery?
I know they're one of the cheapest car retailers but that changes if you've immediately got to spend £200 on a second key.
I also notice a large number of cars (been looking at Minis in particular) with only one service in their records & that's usually just been done within the past week at Cazoo's prep centre. I wondered if they bought a lot of BMW/Mini PCP returns that couldn't be sold as BMW/Mini Used Approved due to missing servicing, so were punted direct to Cazoo or via auction.

OverSteery

3,794 posts

259 months

Sunday 10th July 2022
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austina35 said:
As above. Cars never come with 1 key when new. I've gone to look at cars in the past and if they only have 1 key I either ask for £250 off the negotiating price (after I have haggled) or I walk away.

One particular seller accused me of wasting his time. I clearly pointed out that he had wasted my time as I had travelled to him. I asked where the other key was and he didn't know.

Rule 1 when buying a car. Make sure it comes with ALL the keys.
It sounds like you are wasting everybody's time.

Very easy to ask before viewing and save everybody hassle. Dropping your offer after you have haggled is seriously into wasting people's time.

Whilst I can understand why you have this "rule":
- it's not a common view, so no sellers will expect it.
- you may walk away from some cracking cars.



Edited by OverSteery on Sunday 10th July 12:47

austina35

394 posts

80 months

Sunday 10th July 2022
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The seller was asked how many keys he had before I went to view it as it wasn't stated in the advertisement.

Quite how you think I was wasting anybody's time is baffling. I'm there to buy a car, not become anyone's friend. Sort you own house out before a seller arrives. Make sure you know what your doing when selling. Obviously this idiot wasn't.

ConnectionError

2,313 posts

97 months

Sunday 10th July 2022
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sixor8 said:
I had a Suzuki Swift for over 2 years with only 1 key, not a problem. Just check the batteries in the fob occasionally.

Same with a Fiat Panda for over 3 years. Pricing in the possibility of needing one is wise though.
What happens if you lose the key?

andyalan10

534 posts

165 months

Sunday 10th July 2022
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Or when the person who has the other key drives off with your car?

OverSteery

3,794 posts

259 months

Sunday 10th July 2022
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austina35 said:
The seller was asked how many keys he had before I went to view it as it wasn't stated in the advertisement.

Quite how you think I was wasting anybody's time is baffling. I'm there to buy a car, not become anyone's friend. Sort you own house out before a seller arrives. Make sure you know what your doing when selling. Obviously this idiot wasn't.
I stand corrected. If you asked before visiting - Fairy Nuff

sixor8

8,401 posts

296 months

Sunday 10th July 2022
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ConnectionError said:
sixor8 said:
I had a Suzuki Swift for over 2 years with only 1 key, not a problem. Just check the batteries in the fob occasionally.

Same with a Fiat Panda for over 3 years. Pricing in the possibility of needing one is wise though.
What happens if you lose the key?
Fair point. But I've never lost a car key in 39 years of driving. OK, misplaced, but found again. If I had, I may not be quite so blasé about it! It's nice to have 2 keys, the majority of my purchases have, and if it's cheap enough, I'd obtain one. But as above, it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.

DiamondLights

334 posts

74 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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QQ folks as I'm abroad and in need of help. Need to buy a car fairly soon, and I've seen a decent one on Cazoo. Any thoughts on buying with them? Car has a few imperfections, but appears to have Service History though it's not clear if that's dealer or random garage.

Just wanted to gauge people's thoughts on buying them (which is cheaper obvs) Vs approved dealer?

Dan W.

1,196 posts

106 months

Saturday 16th July 2022
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DiamondLights said:
QQ folks as I'm abroad and in need of help. Need to buy a car fairly soon, and I've seen a decent one on Cazoo. Any thoughts on buying with them? Car has a few imperfections, but appears to have Service History though it's not clear if that's dealer or random garage.

Just wanted to gauge people's thoughts on buying them (which is cheaper obvs) Vs approved dealer?
Worth taking a punt, if you dont like it or its not right just send it back for a full refund.

Bendo

149 posts

70 months

Saturday 16th July 2022
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andyalan10 said:
Or when the person who has the other key drives off with your car?
You take the car to the dealer and have the missing keys removed.