Golf GTD rival with improved NVH sought
Golf GTD rival with improved NVH sought
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Crazy4557

Original Poster:

712 posts

222 months

Tuesday 13th September 2022
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So, I have a 2017 Golf GTD, it's amazing all round car, manual box, goes very well, delivers 50mpg with ease, costs little to maintain, looks good small'ish size so what's not to like? Anyone who's had one will know just how good they are.
But I do around 30k per year commuting and business miles and being 65 I'd appreciate a bit more comfort that a Golf can't offer even though it's not bad. I have a budget of up to £30k to replace it and can't quite think of anything that would give me the same all round ability but better in the NVH department.
P.S Not looking for another Golf this time round and must be an ICE powered, none of this new fangled stuff eek

DaveyBoyWonder

3,802 posts

202 months

Tuesday 13th September 2022
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For £30k there must be thousands of options. C-Class, 3-series, A4, Passat.... next size up from those with E-Class etc. Something SUV-ey to hopefully make the knackered roads feel a little smoother. Tiguan? X3? All available with similarly economical diesel (or petrol!) engines...

J4CKO

46,629 posts

228 months

Tuesday 13th September 2022
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Something with a six cylinder diesel, say a BMW 330D ?

In SE spec to avoid harder suspension/bigger wheels and the comfort trade offs they bring.

Maybe something from Lexus, a Jag XF might be a bit big after a Golf but would cover the NVH angle, again aim for a six rather than a four as aside from being a bigger car, sixes are just inherently smoother.

HelldogBE

285 posts

71 months

Tuesday 13th September 2022
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DaveyBoyWonder said:
For £30k there must be thousands of options. C-Class, 3-series, A4, Passat.... next size up from those with E-Class etc. Something SUV-ey to hopefully make the knackered roads feel a little smoother. Tiguan? X3? All available with similarly economical diesel (or petrol!) engines...
The mk7 Golf was great for NVH and ride suity. Admittedly the GTD version may have taken some of that comfort away. But I'd say they're not far off a 3-series. X3's have notoriously poor ride comfort.

As much as I like big engines and would love to recommend a 540D, I think the sensible way to go is an E220D on small wheels with the acoustic comfort package.

Mammasaid

5,478 posts

125 months

Tuesday 13th September 2022
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Comfort = Volvo

30k will get a V90CC (with 18 inch wheels) and seats to die for....

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202206096...

Crazy4557

Original Poster:

712 posts

222 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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My problem is the GTD is a diesel version of a Golf Gti so pretty good to drive, sharp handling etc etc and I can't see an E220d/Passat and the like being anything close to this. I'd like to keep the PH feel rather than a cruiser type car.
330D is a good shout but anyone driven an SE version and come away impressed?

SteveR1979

601 posts

169 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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530D with the comfort seats.

THE best seats I've ever had in a car ever ever

anonymous-user

82 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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Mammasaid said:
Comfort = Volvo

30k will get a V90CC (with 18 inch wheels) and seats to die for....

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202206096...
That diesel engine is as rough as the women on Love Island though.

Crazy4557

Original Poster:

712 posts

222 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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Comfort is not my first priority, it's the NVH (Noise/Vibration/Harshness) that I want to improve but still get the sportiness of a Golf GTD and all the attributes it brings.
330D is on my list but I prefer the looks of the M Sport over the SE but potentially poor quality bump absorption is the play off. I'm struggling to come up with much else for £30k or thereabouts.

Chrishum

1,413 posts

96 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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I think this, or one of these would tick many of the boxes you have for way under £30k leaving plenty of room for any work you may want to do to it.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202209109...


Olivera

8,699 posts

267 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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A Golf GTI, doesn't have the bag of spanners diesel up front.

bennno

15,133 posts

297 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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Crazy4557 said:
So, I have a 2017 Golf GTD, it's amazing all round car, manual box, goes very well, delivers 50mpg with ease, costs little to maintain, looks good small'ish size so what's not to like? Anyone who's had one will know just how good they are.
But I do around 30k per year commuting and business miles and being 65 I'd appreciate a bit more comfort that a Golf can't offer even though it's not bad. I have a budget of up to £30k to replace it and can't quite think of anything that would give me the same all round ability but better in the NVH department.
P.S Not looking for another Golf this time round and must be an ICE powered, none of this new fangled stuff eek
If its not too big then a V90 is ultra comfortable and refined, even as a diesel, and almost drives itself. Bargain used.

iphonedyou

10,388 posts

185 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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Olivera said:
A Golf GTI, doesn't have the bag of spanners diesel up front.
The GTD's engine noise made me really sad whilst I had one.

Krikkit

27,923 posts

209 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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Straight-6 will be the smoothest diesel, go at least one step bigger (5 series) and fit reasonably high-profile tyres etc to gain a bit more refinement, you'll be in with a winner.

HelldogBE

285 posts

71 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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SteveR1979 said:
530D with the comfort seats.

THE best seats I've ever had in a car ever ever
I drive one of these, comfort and performance is perfect for A-road and motorway use. It's a long way from a Golf GTD for chuckability and narrow city/country traffic though. You just can't attack a narrow wet roundabout the same way with such a barge. The chassis is still great for sweeping bends though and keeps a sporty edge.

Even the 330D suffers a little in the handling department with the boat anchor up front compared to a 328/330I, but the dimensions and weight are more manageable.

The 3.0D is a great compromise for character/sound and consumption though, as long as you're it doing too many short trips. My E90 & F31 320D's sounded very harsh when giving it the beans, while the 6-cylinder unit makes a pleasant sound at all RPM's.

Edited by HelldogBE on Wednesday 14th September 17:05

The spinner of plates

18,084 posts

228 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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If NVH is your goal, step away from a diesel hatchback.

LTEcactus

55 posts

80 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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Have you considered a V60 Polestar?

Uses a Mondeo chassis and has Ohlins coilovers so should handle well.

It's a Volvo so should be fairly well built, you also get digital TFT instruments and a decent sound system


https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202207027...

Brassblaster

213 posts

48 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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stickleback123 said:
That diesel engine is as rough as the women on Love Island though.
Sadly yes... Not a patch on the old 5-cylinder D5 cry

Unless you're happy getting something a little older and putting aside a chunk of the budget though, that's not likely to be on the table, though.

ZX10R NIN

30,422 posts

153 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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Go for a six cylinder diesel Mercedes E Class SE Premium Plus:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202109187...

Canon_Fodder

1,775 posts

91 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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OP I feel your pain.

New model BMW 220d coupe would be the perfect choice but they're dear. Old model not so good re NVH IMV (!)

Not a hatch of course but a big old boot and fold-down seats so can take a big load