Monaro or 4th generation Camaro Z28

[Philip-b4n61]

As above Both have the LS1 engine although the manual version of the Z28 is rare what are your thoughts please? The LHD of the Camaro is not a problem

[ZX10R NIN]

The Camaro is a good car but I'd go for the Monaro as it'll be easier to maintain due to easier parts availability.

[Mr Tidy]

I'd go for the Monaro as I've always liked the look of them, and finding one would probably be much easier!

[samoht]

While the engine is the same, they're somewhat different otherwise.

The Camaro has a live rear axle and is a direct descendant of the original 1967 car. The Monaro is IRS, based on the Vauxhall Omega platform - so a bigger, heavier and more sophisticated car.

So I imagine if you drive them, they'll feel more different than they seem on paper.

[OverSteery]

Philip-b4n61 said:

As above Both have the LS1 engine although the manual version of the Z28 is rare what are your thoughts please? The LHD of the Camaro is not a problem

I've had three 4th gens and two HSV (albeit I had the 4 door GTS rather than the monaro). all 6sp manuals - I don't like autos.

My thoughts are:
- I am the odd man who prefers the early 4th gen - the LT1 engine is more characterful in the old style US V8 . I found the LS1 less engaging.
- driving the camaro was always a little bit special - yes the interior was cheap and plastic and the whole car deeply compromised, but there was a little bit of drama. The HSV was just a bit vauxhall and less drama.
- the seats on the HSV are just the best thing ever.
- if you like a little bit of oppo, then the camaro is a dream come true. Stupidly light rear end and loads of torque. Who needs an IRS at the back? Every roundabout is an opportunity to get in trouble with the law without speeding.
- they made loads of 4th gens. you just need to get things from US or US specialists - I guess the weak £ isn't so great. Trailer park trash and US Capri, cheap (unlike capris now!)
- Camaro brakes are awful. LT1 brakes are (really ) really sh*t, LS1 are sh*t. Update to corvette c5 4 pots. (that's3 more than before!)

Personally I'd buy another fourth z28 every time - ideally as subtle and discrete as my second...






I can't believe I got here before 300bhp/ton

Edited by OverSteery on Tuesday 27th September 21:56

[OverSteery]

samoht said:

The Camaro has a live rear axle and is a direct descendant of the original 1967 car.

In what way is the 4th gen a direct descendant?

[marksx]

I've had three monaros, great cars but watch for rust

[samoht]

OverSteery said:

samoht said:

The Camaro has a live rear axle and is a direct descendant of the original 1967 car.

In what way is the 4th gen a direct descendant?

I'm not claiming it's 'the same'. All I mean is that the Camaro was in continuous production through 1st/2nd/3rd/4th gen, and each iteration was conceptually a development of the one before, i.e. without major revolution - each generation was specifically designed as a direct follow-on to target the same market and the same buyers with the same basic product. Arguably it changed less than, say, the 911 did over the same sort of span, since the basic suspension mechanism is unchanged.

[OverSteery]

samoht said:

OverSteery said:

samoht said:

The Camaro has a live rear axle and is a direct descendant of the original 1967 car.

In what way is the 4th gen a direct descendant?

I'm not claiming it's 'the same'. All I mean is that the Camaro was in continuous production through 1st/2nd/3rd/4th gen, and each iteration was conceptually a development of the one before, i.e. without major revolution - each generation was specifically designed as a direct follow-on to target the same market and the same buyers with the same basic product. Arguably it changed less than, say, the 911 did over the same sort of span, since the basic suspension mechanism is unchanged.