Best fuel option for me - opinions please
Best fuel option for me - opinions please
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anonymous-user

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82 months

Sunday 27th November 2022
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Hi all. Setting the financial turmoil to one side for a moment, I’m thinking about options for next car.

At this stage I’m undecided / prepared to entertain EITHER old (10 years+), recent, or new. Man maths will be employed.

However what I can’t square the circle on is the best fuel choice for me. Life looks like this:

3-4 days per week: 3 mile round trip to station. Fast country roads but takes minutes.

2- 3 days per week: 20 mile round trip to office with no charging facility or anything like that. B roads all the way, some I’ll get up to NSL but probably only for a couple of minutes, the rest is 20-40 bracket.

There are basically NO exceptions to this pattern. No “oh it goes out for a 60 mile round trip blast once every so often” I’m not sharing.

Is that enough of a “run” to justify diesel? Or at least, not destroy the thing? Appreciate old car vs new car may come in to this.

Off street parking available at home, no charger of any sort installed. Would consider PHEV but would need to be educated.

Thanks all

Sc0tchland

447 posts

109 months

Sunday 27th November 2022
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Powerfully Built Company Director said:
Hi all. Setting the financial turmoil to one side for a moment, I’m thinking about options for next car.

At this stage I’m undecided / prepared to entertain EITHER old (10 years+), recent, or new. Man maths will be employed.

However what I can’t square the circle on is the best fuel choice for me. Life looks like this:

3-4 days per week: 3 mile round trip to station. Fast country roads but takes minutes.

2- 3 days per week: 20 mile round trip to office with no charging facility or anything like that. B roads all the way, some I’ll get up to NSL but probably only for a couple of minutes, the rest is 20-40 bracket.

There are basically NO exceptions to this pattern. No “oh it goes out for a 60 mile round trip blast once every so often” I’m not sharing.

Is that enough of a “run” to justify diesel? Or at least, not destroy the thing? Appreciate old car vs new car may come in to this.

Off street parking available at home, no charger of any sort installed. Would consider PHEV but would need to be educated.

Thanks all
What's your budget?

ZX10R NIN

30,417 posts

153 months

Sunday 27th November 2022
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Hard to know without a budget.

Also what do you want? Fiesta/Focus/Mondeo sized car? 100/200/300bhp? Low/middle/high spec?

irc

9,683 posts

164 months

Sunday 27th November 2022
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5000 miles a year. Not enough to justify diesel on economics grounds would have thought. Buy the car you like. Petrol or diesel.

Especially if going for the 10 yr old option. Condition more than fuel choice.

Older diesel? Does it matter about being charged to enter some cities?

cuprabob

19,248 posts

242 months

Sunday 27th November 2022
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Petrol.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

82 months

Sunday 27th November 2022
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irc said:
5000 miles a year. Not enough to justify diesel on economics grounds would have thought. Buy the car you like. Petrol or diesel.

Especially if going for the 10 yr old option. Condition more than fuel choice.

Older diesel? Does it matter about being charged to enter some cities?
Thanks.

To those who have asked about budget - haven’t really got one. Not really the point. If it’s a £4k car or a £40k one, I don’t want to create DPF bills etc for myself by making the wrong choice now. And undecided, as mentioned man maths can accommodate a broad range of choices.

Appreciate ‘buy on condition’, but in terms of “buy the car you like” I just want to make sure I’m not willingly choosing something I will run poorly and regret.

No mention of hybrids thus far either?

secret_stu

61 posts

68 months

Sunday 27th November 2022
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In the circumstances you describe, I'd be picking petrol every time. In a diesel you won't be getting up to full operating temp, so may get dpf issues. Also, diesels average good mpg with the right driving mix I.e. Sat cruising on a motorway for extended periods.

ZX10R NIN

30,417 posts

153 months

Sunday 27th November 2022
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With you're budget of 40k your options are petrol/petrol hybrid/plug in hybrid or fully (using a 13amp socket or you could get a charger installed) electric.

georgeyboy12345

4,563 posts

63 months

Sunday 27th November 2022
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Powerfully Built Company Director said:


Is that enough of a “run” to justify diesel? Or at least, not destroy the thing? Appreciate old car vs new car may come in to this.
No.

Get anything but a diesel. Petrol, fine. Hybrid, fine. PHEV, fine. Electric, fine. Diesel, NO.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

82 months

Sunday 27th November 2022
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Thanks all much appreciated.

BrownBottle

1,416 posts

164 months

Sunday 27th November 2022
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For that kind of usage I'd be going EV. With no long journeys a PHEV would be pointless.

Fastlane

1,348 posts

245 months

Sunday 27th November 2022
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Assuming you run your own business (given your user name), then an EV every time run though the business.

£40k would give you a great choice of cars, all of which could manage your daily mileage without any bother and only using a 3amp plug to charge. Personally I'd install a charger, as that can be expensed through the business too.

samoht

7,155 posts

174 months

Sunday 27th November 2022
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BrownBottle said:
For that kind of usage I'd be going EV. With no long journeys a PHEV would be pointless.
+1

Doesn't sound like you're going to really have any chance to enjoy driving this car, so you may as well go electric and have that nice relaxing smoothness and quiet, and save some money on running costs. Getting a charger put in would almost certainly be a worthwhile investment.

Mr Tidy

30,860 posts

155 months

Sunday 27th November 2022
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That sort of use just doesn't justify a diesel. I don't think the DPF would regenerate and a 10 year old diesel won't be Euro VI, so going into the ULEZ would cost £12.50 a day (if that might ever happen).

I only do that sort of annual mileage and run a 17 year old petrol that is Euro IV so can go into the ULEZ without being charged, which works for me as next year my sister will live in the expanded ULEZ.

Don't know about PHEV or EV options though.

LJF_97

360 posts

60 months

Wednesday 30th November 2022
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I'd be looking at petrol given the type of usage you quote, obviously some cars that just won't make sense so you may have no other choice than diesel.