BMW Approved Used - MOT advisory
BMW Approved Used - MOT advisory
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molamh

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2 posts

45 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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Hi all,

On Monday I found a lovely 2019 BMW X3 (G01). The car appears to be in great condition, with low miles, etc. and I received a decent offer on the car I will be trading in (compared to what other garages where offering). No money has been exchanged yet except for a reservation fee that’s refundable.

The car in question was overdue its MOT, and it is going to be its first one too. The BMW dealership mentioned it will pass through no problem due to its condition, mileage, etc. They told me that it will be going through its MOT today. Just checked online to see the result, and surprisingly it’s already available. It passed, however with an advisory for “ Offside Rear Tyre worn close to legal limit/worn on edge (5.2.3 (e))”. I checked the tyres on Monday, and they appeared in decent order, but obviously my “checking” is a lot to be desired!

My question - as it’s an “Approved Used BMW” would it be fair to say the car should not have such an advisory and come with decent tread depth on all four corners. Perhaps they replaced the tyre, but I doubt it. If they haven’t, would it be worth renegotiating even through I ‘shook-on’ the agreement to buy the car? I wouldn’t mind so much, but they are not cheap tyres plus the weather not being great this time of year. Supposed to be picking the car up tomorrow afternoon. What would you all do in such a situation?

edthefed

825 posts

95 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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From memory BMW AUC standards are a minimum of 3mm tread

Anything less tyre needs changing by the dealer. Just make sure its not been fitted with a cheap ditchfinder

Mandat

4,550 posts

266 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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molamh said:
Hi all,

On Monday I found a lovely 2019 BMW X3 (G01). The car appears to be in great condition, with low miles, etc. and I received a decent offer on the car I will be trading in (compared to what other garages where offering). No money has been exchanged yet except for a reservation fee that’s refundable.

The car in question was overdue its MOT, and it is going to be its first one too. The BMW dealership mentioned it will pass through no problem due to its condition, mileage, etc. They told me that it will be going through its MOT today. Just checked online to see the result, and surprisingly it’s already available. It passed, however with an advisory for “ Offside Rear Tyre worn close to legal limit/worn on edge (5.2.3 (e))”. I checked the tyres on Monday, and they appeared in decent order, but obviously my “checking” is a lot to be desired!

My question - as it’s an “Approved Used BMW” would it be fair to say the car should not have such an advisory and come with decent tread depth on all four corners. Perhaps they replaced the tyre, but I doubt it. If they haven’t, would it be worth renegotiating even through I ‘shook-on’ the agreement to buy the car? I wouldn’t mind so much, but they are not cheap tyres plus the weather not being great this time of year. Supposed to be picking the car up tomorrow afternoon. What would you all do in such a situation?
Notwithstanding the MOT advisory, you were presumably happy with the tyres when you inspected the car, and shook on the deal?

In any case, I would use the MOT advisory as a discussion point with the dealer if the tyre hasn't already been changed, but if I really liked the car, I don't know if it would be a deal breaker for me for the sake of £150.

samoht

7,155 posts

174 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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You're right, if it's approved used the tyres should have at least 3mm tread (unless they've changed it since the below).

SALESPERSONS GUIDE BMW APPROVED USED CARS said:
Every tyre has a minimum tread depth of 3mm
https://www.bmwbrochures.co.uk/AUC_SPG_2013/files/...

Legal minimum is 1.6mm, so if it's worn close to that then it's likely below 3mm.

South tdf

1,814 posts

223 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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Maybe ring the dealer and ask if they are changing the e rear tyres?

It is not uncommon for BMW’s to wear the inside edges so I would expect the dealer will probably change them as part of their BMW Approved standard.

ADJimbo

891 posts

214 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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What did the Salesman say when you rung him to ask?

Earthdweller

18,954 posts

154 months

Wednesday 30th November 2022
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I had an MOT done at a BMW main dealer a couple of years back

Got advisories for two rear tyres




Both tyres had over 3mm on them, I also got a video health check and a tick box where I could authorise them to replace with two VERY expensive tyres sent to me


I would certainly have a good look at the tyre but I’d take advisories like that with a pinch of salt tbf

InitialDave

14,957 posts

147 months

Wednesday 30th November 2022
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I'd look at the tyre myself and make a decision.

I'd also only be interested in the dealer including new tyres as part of the sale if they fit the tyres I want, otherwise I'd be more inclined to leverage the issue for a bit of money off and sort it out on my own.

chrisch77

883 posts

103 months

Wednesday 30th November 2022
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Perhaps a more interesting question is why the tyres are significantly worn on the inside edges (assuming the bit you saw looked fine). The tyres may need replacing, and if you are lucky perhaps the dealer will do this, but is there another issue with wheel alignment or worn suspension bushes that are causing the issue? In your position I would like that to be at least investigated before putting new tyres on, otherwise they will likely go the same way.

Jakey123

269 posts

173 months

Wednesday 30th November 2022
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Personally from my experience - Approved used schemes don't mean much. That's from any manufacturer

They give peace of mind as usually have a warranty thrown in, but you obviously pay the premium for this in the purchase price.

molamh

Original Poster:

2 posts

45 months

Wednesday 30th November 2022
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Sorry I was trying to reply last night to the messages, but since I just signed up to the forum it wasn't letting me.

I called the dealership this morning. They are replacing the tyre that matches the others (Bridgestone)). Didn't need to ask, they were already planning on doing it, just needed to order the tyre in.

So all good. Nit-picking I would prefer if they changed both tyres on the axle, but that's perhaps being 'unfair' to ask.

Really appreciate all the messages, links, advice, etc. Thank you all!

DearHello

8 posts

63 months

Wednesday 30th November 2022
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I've just bought an AUC G01 M40i and was told that if there were any advisories on the prior to collection MOT, that they would be sorted and then a 'clean' MOT would be issued.

I'd definitely speak to the dealer and ask them to replace the tyre. See if you can also ask them to replace the nearside rear so tread depths match....

DearHello

8 posts

63 months

Wednesday 30th November 2022
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Ah, posted before I saw your post.

Glad they are replacing the tyre without any hassle!

Oldcarman

14 posts

45 months

Wednesday 30th November 2022
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molamh said:
I called the dealership this morning. They are replacing the tyre that matches the others (Bridgestone)). Didn't need to ask, they were already planning on doing it, just needed to order the tyre in.

I would prefer if they changed both tyres on the axle, but that's perhaps being 'unfair' to ask.
It would be ideal to have both rear tyres changed at the same time so it may be worth asking if they could give you a good price to change the other one. It may be too late to get it done at the same same time but you could arrange to drop in with the car in a few days and have it changed while you wait.

edthefed

825 posts

95 months

Wednesday 30th November 2022
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molamh said:
Sorry I was trying to reply last night to the messages, but since I just signed up to the forum it wasn't letting me.

I called the dealership this morning. They are replacing the tyre that matches the others (Bridgestone)). Didn't need to ask, they were already planning on doing it, just needed to order the tyre in.

So all good. Nit-picking I would prefer if they changed both tyres on the axle, but that's perhaps being 'unfair' to ask.

Really appreciate all the messages, links, advice, etc. Thank you all!
Perhaps ask them to confirm that the work still meets BMW requirement for X drive tyres before you hand over any money

Same make and tread pattern
No more than 2mm difference in tread depth between tyres on the same axle
No more than 2-3mm difference in tread depth between tyres front to rear
Tyres with most tread on the rear

If you have any transmission / x drive issues they will check the above first !

Just changed all 4 tyres on the wifes x1 yesterday !