Dealer saying car is already taxed - England
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I am going to purchase a pre-owned vehicle from a local dealership in Kent this afternoon.
The seller mentioned that the car is already taxed for a year and I will not have to pay for it.
Is this accurate or is it still my responsibility to tax my vehicles regardless?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
The seller mentioned that the car is already taxed for a year and I will not have to pay for it.
Is this accurate or is it still my responsibility to tax my vehicles regardless?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Pedro25 said:
You will have to tax the car, once the car is sold the current tax is invalid and the amount paid for gets refunded to the seller, tax has not been transferable on a vehicle for a few years now.
This. Dealer cannot be that ignorant so is also most certainly trying to avoid you negotiating over it.Is it possible the dealer has already done/is going to when you pick the car up online notification to DVLA that you are the new keeper & the tax has been paid as part of the deal?
www.theaa.com/driving-advice/driving-costs/car-tax...
"How do I tax my car while waiting for the log book (V5C)?
If you’re buying a new car, you might not have the log book yet. But you still need to get your Vehicle Excise Duty in place before you drive the car away.
If you're buying a second-hand car:
If you’ve bought a second-hand car, any reputable dealer should help you to sort out the car tax.
If you're buying a new car:
If you’re buying a brand new car, the dealer will usually arrange the car tax. The full price of a new car usually includes the first year’s tax and the new registration fee, so you won’t have to sort these out yourself. The dealer will give the DVLA proof of your name and address along with details of the car."
^^^Random result from a quick Google. Autotrader says the same thing.
www.theaa.com/driving-advice/driving-costs/car-tax...
"How do I tax my car while waiting for the log book (V5C)?
If you’re buying a new car, you might not have the log book yet. But you still need to get your Vehicle Excise Duty in place before you drive the car away.
If you're buying a second-hand car:
If you’ve bought a second-hand car, any reputable dealer should help you to sort out the car tax.
If you're buying a new car:
If you’re buying a brand new car, the dealer will usually arrange the car tax. The full price of a new car usually includes the first year’s tax and the new registration fee, so you won’t have to sort these out yourself. The dealer will give the DVLA proof of your name and address along with details of the car."
^^^Random result from a quick Google. Autotrader says the same thing.
TonyRPH said:
The bottom line is that vehicle tax cannot be transferred with ownership.
If the owner changes, then the vehicle has to be (re)taxed.
It's the law.
Yup, and on that basis given if you tax it today you would be charged for the whole of January despite the month being almost over, I'd recommend delaying collecting the car until Feb 1st if possible... but maybe that's the Scottish in me...If the owner changes, then the vehicle has to be (re)taxed.
It's the law.
Thanks for the advice, as I’ve been told it will have tax I’m going to assume they will be going through the vehicle transfer while I’m there, and paying for tax for me.
If not I’ll be negotiating the price down to account for it.
The car is only 4 years old and has a list price over £40k so it still has a year of the additional tax payment.
If not I’ll be negotiating the price down to account for it.
The car is only 4 years old and has a list price over £40k so it still has a year of the additional tax payment.
Unlike all the experts on this thread it could be possible the car comes taxed as it’s not unknown for a dealer to tax a car whilst it is in trade but not complete the change of keeper.
Reasons for this are the dealer needed to use the car for a few weeks or they sold it but it was returned before the change of keeper was completed.
Your best bet is to ask for a copy of the taxation receipt as it’s likely the transfer of keeper will be backdated to the date the car was taxed.
Reasons for this are the dealer needed to use the car for a few weeks or they sold it but it was returned before the change of keeper was completed.
Your best bet is to ask for a copy of the taxation receipt as it’s likely the transfer of keeper will be backdated to the date the car was taxed.
You can rely upon PH for a whole load of instant experts, just add alcohol.
My previous car was a "new" Pre-Reg Golf GTE, that had done 900 or so miles, and had been used for a month as a demonstrator and as personal transport by the sales manager.
As per the negotiated price, it did indeed come taxed for 12 months, presumably by the dealership whilst we were completing the paperwork.
This is not the best place to seek advice, as there are a disproportionate number of "Contributors" only too happy to present opinion as fact. Some of them are company directors I believe, with a freezer full of frozen sausages.
My previous car was a "new" Pre-Reg Golf GTE, that had done 900 or so miles, and had been used for a month as a demonstrator and as personal transport by the sales manager.
As per the negotiated price, it did indeed come taxed for 12 months, presumably by the dealership whilst we were completing the paperwork.
This is not the best place to seek advice, as there are a disproportionate number of "Contributors" only too happy to present opinion as fact. Some of them are company directors I believe, with a freezer full of frozen sausages.
Auto810graphy said:
Unlike all the experts on this thread it could be possible the car comes taxed as it’s not unknown for a dealer to tax a car whilst it is in trade but not complete the change of keeper.
Reasons for this are the dealer needed to use the car for a few weeks or they sold it but it was returned before the change of keeper was completed.
Your best bet is to ask for a copy of the taxation receipt as it’s likely the transfer of keeper will be backdated to the date the car was taxed.
That’s not how it works any more. Reasons for this are the dealer needed to use the car for a few weeks or they sold it but it was returned before the change of keeper was completed.
Your best bet is to ask for a copy of the taxation receipt as it’s likely the transfer of keeper will be backdated to the date the car was taxed.
Edited by miniman on Thursday 26th January 22:15
Yes, for a trader to tax a car but not carry out change of keeper, he'd have to use the document ref on the front or have it scanned at a PO. Either way, this would be daft because as soon as a new keeper is registered, the previous keeper would get sent a refund cheque! If a dealer has dealer plates, he doesn't have to tax a car to use it anyway.
If he uses the new keeper slip, fair enough but the change of keeper would have to follow shortly afterwards.
If he uses the new keeper slip, fair enough but the change of keeper would have to follow shortly afterwards.
Auto810graphy said:
Unlike all the experts on this thread it could be possible the car comes taxed as it’s not unknown for a dealer to tax a car whilst it is in trade but not complete the change of keeper.
Reasons for this are the dealer needed to use the car for a few weeks or they sold it but it was returned before the change of keeper was completed.
Your best bet is to ask for a copy of the taxation receipt as it’s likely the transfer of keeper will be backdated to the date the car was taxed.
That is a forum equivalent of the people you see leaving a car show and putting their car through a hedge as they accelerate out of the gate.Reasons for this are the dealer needed to use the car for a few weeks or they sold it but it was returned before the change of keeper was completed.
Your best bet is to ask for a copy of the taxation receipt as it’s likely the transfer of keeper will be backdated to the date the car was taxed.
I bought a pre-reg Kia 3 years ago from a main dealer. 2 months old, 70 miles on the clock.
Dealer told me that the car was taxed for 12 months (10 months remaining), and I could have the tax. They would simply not process the change of ownership until the tax was due!
I wasn't happy with this, as not being the registered keeper can cause problems with some insurance companies, so I insisted that they do the change of ownership and I paid the tax.
I'm guessing that they wanted to hold onto the ownership to keep a manufacturer demonstrator discount, and the free road tax offer was a sweetener to get me to agree?
Dealer told me that the car was taxed for 12 months (10 months remaining), and I could have the tax. They would simply not process the change of ownership until the tax was due!
I wasn't happy with this, as not being the registered keeper can cause problems with some insurance companies, so I insisted that they do the change of ownership and I paid the tax.
I'm guessing that they wanted to hold onto the ownership to keep a manufacturer demonstrator discount, and the free road tax offer was a sweetener to get me to agree?
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