BYD showrooms now in UK
BYD showrooms now in UK
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cootuk

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918 posts

150 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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Looks like Arnold Clark have one of the first BYD showrooms in Scotland with the Atto 3 starting around £36500.
Not exciting, but a mainstream EV competitor for people who want boring.
I wonder how these stack up to other Chinese brands like MG.

Screenwash

341 posts

49 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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Wow that seems expensive for an “unknown” Chinese brand?!

The Atto 3 retails from around GBP27K in ANZ…

Jamescrs

6,256 posts

92 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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Not really heard of the brand at at that price for what looks like a very bland SUV type vehicle I cant see it having much impact in the UK where people are very conscious about what badge is on their car.

Challo

12,523 posts

182 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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Jamescrs said:
Not really heard of the brand at at that price for what looks like a very bland SUV type vehicle I cant see it having much impact in the UK where people are very conscious about what badge is on their car.
You say that but isn’t that how Kia and Hyundai got a foot hold in the market? Offering pretty run of the mill, good value, reliable cars that all had a 7 year warranty. MG seem to have done ok, and Dacia sells a lot of cars.

Price will come into it, but people are happy to buy so called rubbish brands.

croyde

26,097 posts

257 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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You can buy a lot of Dacias for £36k.

I have heard of BYD for a while now through my work.

BlindedByTheLights

1,994 posts

124 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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Jamescrs said:
Not really heard of the brand at at that price for what looks like a very bland SUV type vehicle I cant see it having much impact in the UK where people are very conscious about what badge is on their car.
But those brands EV’s are too expensive for a lot of people. I think BYD will be doing very well with their offering, look at how MG are doing. They will become the new ev version of qashqai’s, ford eco sports, dacia dusters.

maz8062

3,857 posts

242 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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BYD - what does it stand for?

cootuk

Original Poster:

918 posts

150 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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Build Your Dreams

I believe Warren Buffet prefers these over Tesla

sawman

5,152 posts

257 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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Jonny smith quite liked it, sounds like they have some interesting battery tech, lighter and no cobalt used

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

200 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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cootuk said:
Looks like Arnold Clark have one of the first BYD showrooms in Scotland with the Atto 3 starting around £36500.
Not exciting, but a mainstream EV competitor for people who want boring.
I wonder how these stack up to other Chinese brands like MG.
That or a Tesla.

Good luck to them. Wonder if the cringy badge can be deleted as a no cost option.



Edited by ChocolateFrog on Thursday 16th March 09:02

Dynion Araf Uchaf

5,138 posts

250 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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(not very) cheap Chinese ste.

It's this type of product that the route to electrification is going to make cars as interesting as your fridge. Do you know what make and model fridge you have? Do you care?

I can see that these may well be a challenge to sell, after all how would you actually sell one - the BYD franchise would have to sit alongside a known franchise and any buyer of these is likely to have been swept up by an eager salesman pouncing on a customer who walked through the wrong door. I'd image that there would be some significant discounts to get any one in one of these, but then again maybe the weekly payments would be cheap.

get to fk with your Chinese ste.

Ed.

2,176 posts

265 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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cootuk said:
Build Your Dreams

I believe Warren Buffet prefers these over Tesla
Didn't he live in the same suburban house with the same old car for decades?

Challo

12,523 posts

182 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
(not very) cheap Chinese ste.

It's this type of product that the route to electrification is going to make cars as interesting as your fridge. Do you know what make and model fridge you have? Do you care?

I can see that these may well be a challenge to sell, after all how would you actually sell one - the BYD franchise would have to sit alongside a known franchise and any buyer of these is likely to have been swept up by an eager salesman pouncing on a customer who walked through the wrong door. I'd image that there would be some significant discounts to get any one in one of these, but then again maybe the weekly payments would be cheap.

get to fk with your Chinese ste.
But is that not be the point. A large percentage of people just want white good transport, and this might be an easy entry route into EV’s. I suspect they don’t care what badge it has on the front.

I suspect these are just as well built as your so called premium lines.

MisterBigglesworth

460 posts

75 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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Given Audi and Mercedes have gone from low volume niche executive sellers in this country to mainstream and VA have utterly dominated Ford and Vahuxhall I'd suggest people very much care about the brand in this country. Very hard to dominate the cul de sac in a generic Chinese wagon that sounds like the slogan for a pyramid scheme marketing course run out of a Midlands holiday in conference room.

Dacia, Hyundai Kia got their foothold by selling very cheap cars- 36k is not cheap by any measure. MG is at least a recognisable brand in the UK.

And I do know who made my fridge, it's a Bosch.


mabosh

343 posts

213 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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A significant number of the electric buses on the road have BYD chassis. They are a huge company and I'm sure the motor tech will be decent.

Obviously they'll need to work on an image and establish some kind of foothold. Makes the Ora Funky Cat look even more ridiculous and overpriced.

Jamescrs

6,256 posts

92 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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Challo said:
You say that but isn’t that how Kia and Hyundai got a foot hold in the market? Offering pretty run of the mill, good value, reliable cars that all had a 7 year warranty. MG seem to have done ok, and Dacia sells a lot of cars.

Price will come into it, but people are happy to buy so called rubbish brands.
Completely agree but my point was more around the price of the cars they are selling, 36k is not a cheap car like Dacia or even MG up to a point.
I think the BYD offering is going to be too expensive for most to consider it, maybe if it had a RRP starting with a 2 it would become more interesting to those looking for a cheap (relatively speaking) way into the EV market.

croyde

26,097 posts

257 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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Another deadly silent blandmobile with a super giant screen to keep the proles entertained and ignorant of actually looking where they are going.

If you despise driving so much, take the bus/train/tube.

That's what I do, hence why I was very late for work this morning smile

Challo

12,523 posts

182 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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Jamescrs said:
Challo said:
You say that but isn’t that how Kia and Hyundai got a foot hold in the market? Offering pretty run of the mill, good value, reliable cars that all had a 7 year warranty. MG seem to have done ok, and Dacia sells a lot of cars.

Price will come into it, but people are happy to buy so called rubbish brands.
Completely agree but my point was more around the price of the cars they are selling, 36k is not a cheap car like Dacia or even MG up to a point.
I think the BYD offering is going to be too expensive for most to consider it, maybe if it had a RRP starting with a 2 it would become more interesting to those looking for a cheap (relatively speaking) way into the EV market.
Good point. I had a look at the MG pricing and they are slightly higher starting price.

Maybe to come into the market under cutting your rivals would help drive sales

Venisonpie

4,696 posts

109 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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BYD are an established manufacturer in China and have been selling PCV's in the UK for several years. Have a look at a double deck electric bus in London and the majority are BYD (I used to buy them).

We did try some of their smaller stuff but it wasn't great compared to a Kia Niro etc.

jimmytheone

1,982 posts

245 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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Challo said:
Jamescrs said:
Challo said:
You say that but isn’t that how Kia and Hyundai got a foot hold in the market? Offering pretty run of the mill, good value, reliable cars that all had a 7 year warranty. MG seem to have done ok, and Dacia sells a lot of cars.

Price will come into it, but people are happy to buy so called rubbish brands.
Completely agree but my point was more around the price of the cars they are selling, 36k is not a cheap car like Dacia or even MG up to a point.
I think the BYD offering is going to be too expensive for most to consider it, maybe if it had a RRP starting with a 2 it would become more interesting to those looking for a cheap (relatively speaking) way into the EV market.
Good point. I had a look at the MG pricing and they are slightly higher starting price.

Maybe to come into the market under cutting your rivals would help drive sales
We have an MG4 Trophy LR 64kwh arriving next week on short term rental - apparently the P11d value is £28,290.
So an additional £8k for the BYD seems like quite a step up.

caveat i've not driven either yet!