Nissan R35 GT-R or Lotus Emira
Discussion
Hi all, after being a life long R35 fan, I am nearly in the position of buying a circa 2017 R35 GT-R. However, a friend of a friend has thrown a spanner in the works as I saw his stunning Lotus Emira at the a couple of weekends ago and wow, what a beauty!
I know that these are 2 completely different cars but which one would you go for?
My driving is motorway, dual carriageway, A roads, etc, say around 40%. The other 60% is probably slower / city driving. This will be my daily car.
I know the GTR is more of a cruiser (and I love the history of the brand / badge) and the Lotus is an everyday sports car (again, with a great history) and I loved Harry Metcalfe's video / tour with it. But something keeps drawing my to the Lotus and when I decide on that, I look back at the GT-R and feel that actually, I should stick to my original choice and go with that.
Any words of wisdom most appreciated. Thanks!
I know that these are 2 completely different cars but which one would you go for?
My driving is motorway, dual carriageway, A roads, etc, say around 40%. The other 60% is probably slower / city driving. This will be my daily car.
I know the GTR is more of a cruiser (and I love the history of the brand / badge) and the Lotus is an everyday sports car (again, with a great history) and I loved Harry Metcalfe's video / tour with it. But something keeps drawing my to the Lotus and when I decide on that, I look back at the GT-R and feel that actually, I should stick to my original choice and go with that.
Any words of wisdom most appreciated. Thanks!
Both on my list of possible next cars although I’m currently to poor! If it was my only car it would be GTR, more practical, larger boot, and some back seats to stick my dog. Could cruise all day and then be a weapon on track.
If I could have two cars I think id take the Emira, looks gorgeous (one of the best looking current cars out there imo) probably a bit more ‘special’ to use and be out and about in and can come with three pedals.
I’m sure you’ll be happy with either!
If I could have two cars I think id take the Emira, looks gorgeous (one of the best looking current cars out there imo) probably a bit more ‘special’ to use and be out and about in and can come with three pedals.
I’m sure you’ll be happy with either!
You say the GTR is more of a cruiser, but it's also very capable around a racetrack, I'd be surprised if it wasn't quicker around a lap of most tracks than an Emira. It's in no way soft, I suspect the Lotus would have the more absorbent ride quality.
The GTR is a straightline monster, even stock - it'll feel noticeably quicker than the Emira. The GTR does 0-100mph in 6.8 seconds, the Emira takes almost twice as long at 12.7 secs.
The Emira is lighter and I would imagine more involving to drive (steering feel, agility) whereas the GTR has a lot of stability and is very very capable.
If you're looking at spending this sort of money you might also want to consider a few other possibilities. The Alpine A110S is on a par with the Emira performance wise but cheaper and 300kg lighter so even more agile. You could also get a car that combines Lotus-like handling with GTR-like performance in the shape of a McLaren.
The GTR is a straightline monster, even stock - it'll feel noticeably quicker than the Emira. The GTR does 0-100mph in 6.8 seconds, the Emira takes almost twice as long at 12.7 secs.
The Emira is lighter and I would imagine more involving to drive (steering feel, agility) whereas the GTR has a lot of stability and is very very capable.
If you're looking at spending this sort of money you might also want to consider a few other possibilities. The Alpine A110S is on a par with the Emira performance wise but cheaper and 300kg lighter so even more agile. You could also get a car that combines Lotus-like handling with GTR-like performance in the shape of a McLaren.
Whilst they're both on your radar, they're completely different cars, so you need to think about what type of car you're in the mood for.
The GT-R is going to make the Emira feel like someone forgot to put the engine in. Absolute straight line monster. However, the Emira looks like a mini supercar and is going to make you feel like a superstar. It'll also be very sweet to drive with a manual box too.
Personally, if you're willing to push the boat out on a special car in this range, I'd go with samoht and get a used 540C/570S. Lotus looks, GT-R performance, dihedral doors, carbon tub, 3.x to 60mph, 200mph top end... honestly they're untouchable at the 80-100 price point. Surely someone's going to realise at some point and the prices are going to stiffen a lot.
The GT-R is going to make the Emira feel like someone forgot to put the engine in. Absolute straight line monster. However, the Emira looks like a mini supercar and is going to make you feel like a superstar. It'll also be very sweet to drive with a manual box too.
Personally, if you're willing to push the boat out on a special car in this range, I'd go with samoht and get a used 540C/570S. Lotus looks, GT-R performance, dihedral doors, carbon tub, 3.x to 60mph, 200mph top end... honestly they're untouchable at the 80-100 price point. Surely someone's going to realise at some point and the prices are going to stiffen a lot.
Emira every day of the week. Love the GTR but it's a big old thing that doesn't ride very well and offers little engagement at lower speeds.
The Emira is a big step forward from a usability perspective for Lotus, and perfectly suited to UK roads and driving with plenty to offer even at < 60mph.
The Emira is a big step forward from a usability perspective for Lotus, and perfectly suited to UK roads and driving with plenty to offer even at < 60mph.
rawenghey said:
Whilst they're both on your radar, they're completely different cars, so you need to think about what type of car you're in the mood for.
, I'd go with samoht and get a used 540C/570S. Lotus looks, GT-R performance, dihedral doors, carbon tub, 3.x to 60mph, 200mph top end... honestly they're untouchable at the 80-100 price point. Surely someone's going to realise at some point and the prices are going to stiffen a lot.
I wonder if this will be one of those quotes that looking back in a decades time we'll reminisce about what it could have cost. Are they ruinous to run though now?, I'd go with samoht and get a used 540C/570S. Lotus looks, GT-R performance, dihedral doors, carbon tub, 3.x to 60mph, 200mph top end... honestly they're untouchable at the 80-100 price point. Surely someone's going to realise at some point and the prices are going to stiffen a lot.
samoht said:
You say the GTR is more of a cruiser, but it's also very capable around a racetrack, I'd be surprised if it wasn't quicker around a lap of most tracks than an Emira. It's in no way soft, I suspect the Lotus would have the more absorbent ride quality.
The GTR is a straightline monster, even stock - it'll feel noticeably quicker than the Emira. The GTR does 0-100mph in 6.8 seconds, the Emira takes almost twice as long at 12.7 secs.
The Emira is lighter and I would imagine more involving to drive (steering feel, agility) whereas the GTR has a lot of stability and is very very capable.
If you're looking at spending this sort of money you might also want to consider a few other possibilities. The Alpine A110S is on a par with the Emira performance wise but cheaper and 300kg lighter so even more agile. You could also get a car that combines Lotus-like handling with GTR-like performance in the shape of a McLaren.
Surely the Emira is quicker to 100 than that, a Fiat Coupe was just over 14 seconds to 100 with less power all those years ago?The GTR is a straightline monster, even stock - it'll feel noticeably quicker than the Emira. The GTR does 0-100mph in 6.8 seconds, the Emira takes almost twice as long at 12.7 secs.
The Emira is lighter and I would imagine more involving to drive (steering feel, agility) whereas the GTR has a lot of stability and is very very capable.
If you're looking at spending this sort of money you might also want to consider a few other possibilities. The Alpine A110S is on a par with the Emira performance wise but cheaper and 300kg lighter so even more agile. You could also get a car that combines Lotus-like handling with GTR-like performance in the shape of a McLaren.
heisthegaffer said:
samoht said:
You say the GTR is more of a cruiser, but it's also very capable around a racetrack, I'd be surprised if it wasn't quicker around a lap of most tracks than an Emira. It's in no way soft, I suspect the Lotus would have the more absorbent ride quality.
The GTR is a straightline monster, even stock - it'll feel noticeably quicker than the Emira. The GTR does 0-100mph in 6.8 seconds, the Emira takes almost twice as long at 12.7 secs.
The Emira is lighter and I would imagine more involving to drive (steering feel, agility) whereas the GTR has a lot of stability and is very very capable.
If you're looking at spending this sort of money you might also want to consider a few other possibilities. The Alpine A110S is on a par with the Emira performance wise but cheaper and 300kg lighter so even more agile. You could also get a car that combines Lotus-like handling with GTR-like performance in the shape of a McLaren.
Surely the Emira is quicker to 100 than that, a Fiat Coupe was just over 14 seconds to 100 with less power all those years ago?The GTR is a straightline monster, even stock - it'll feel noticeably quicker than the Emira. The GTR does 0-100mph in 6.8 seconds, the Emira takes almost twice as long at 12.7 secs.
The Emira is lighter and I would imagine more involving to drive (steering feel, agility) whereas the GTR has a lot of stability and is very very capable.
If you're looking at spending this sort of money you might also want to consider a few other possibilities. The Alpine A110S is on a par with the Emira performance wise but cheaper and 300kg lighter so even more agile. You could also get a car that combines Lotus-like handling with GTR-like performance in the shape of a McLaren.
Sc0tchland said:
heisthegaffer said:
samoht said:
You say the GTR is more of a cruiser, but it's also very capable around a racetrack, I'd be surprised if it wasn't quicker around a lap of most tracks than an Emira. It's in no way soft, I suspect the Lotus would have the more absorbent ride quality.
The GTR is a straightline monster, even stock - it'll feel noticeably quicker than the Emira. The GTR does 0-100mph in 6.8 seconds, the Emira takes almost twice as long at 12.7 secs.
The Emira is lighter and I would imagine more involving to drive (steering feel, agility) whereas the GTR has a lot of stability and is very very capable.
If you're looking at spending this sort of money you might also want to consider a few other possibilities. The Alpine A110S is on a par with the Emira performance wise but cheaper and 300kg lighter so even more agile. You could also get a car that combines Lotus-like handling with GTR-like performance in the shape of a McLaren.
Surely the Emira is quicker to 100 than that, a Fiat Coupe was just over 14 seconds to 100 with less power all those years ago?The GTR is a straightline monster, even stock - it'll feel noticeably quicker than the Emira. The GTR does 0-100mph in 6.8 seconds, the Emira takes almost twice as long at 12.7 secs.
The Emira is lighter and I would imagine more involving to drive (steering feel, agility) whereas the GTR has a lot of stability and is very very capable.
If you're looking at spending this sort of money you might also want to consider a few other possibilities. The Alpine A110S is on a par with the Emira performance wise but cheaper and 300kg lighter so even more agile. You could also get a car that combines Lotus-like handling with GTR-like performance in the shape of a McLaren.
heisthegaffer said:
Sc0tchland said:
heisthegaffer said:
samoht said:
You say the GTR is more of a cruiser, but it's also very capable around a racetrack, I'd be surprised if it wasn't quicker around a lap of most tracks than an Emira. It's in no way soft, I suspect the Lotus would have the more absorbent ride quality.
The GTR is a straightline monster, even stock - it'll feel noticeably quicker than the Emira. The GTR does 0-100mph in 6.8 seconds, the Emira takes almost twice as long at 12.7 secs.
The Emira is lighter and I would imagine more involving to drive (steering feel, agility) whereas the GTR has a lot of stability and is very very capable.
If you're looking at spending this sort of money you might also want to consider a few other possibilities. The Alpine A110S is on a par with the Emira performance wise but cheaper and 300kg lighter so even more agile. You could also get a car that combines Lotus-like handling with GTR-like performance in the shape of a McLaren.
Surely the Emira is quicker to 100 than that, a Fiat Coupe was just over 14 seconds to 100 with less power all those years ago?The GTR is a straightline monster, even stock - it'll feel noticeably quicker than the Emira. The GTR does 0-100mph in 6.8 seconds, the Emira takes almost twice as long at 12.7 secs.
The Emira is lighter and I would imagine more involving to drive (steering feel, agility) whereas the GTR has a lot of stability and is very very capable.
If you're looking at spending this sort of money you might also want to consider a few other possibilities. The Alpine A110S is on a par with the Emira performance wise but cheaper and 300kg lighter so even more agile. You could also get a car that combines Lotus-like handling with GTR-like performance in the shape of a McLaren.
At least with the Fiat Coupe 20V Turbo, there is a proper Autocar road test quoting what I assume is an accurate independent 0-100 mph time of 14.5 seconds here https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/from-the-archiv...
Sc0tchland said:
heisthegaffer said:
Sc0tchland said:
heisthegaffer said:
samoht said:
You say the GTR is more of a cruiser, but it's also very capable around a racetrack, I'd be surprised if it wasn't quicker around a lap of most tracks than an Emira. It's in no way soft, I suspect the Lotus would have the more absorbent ride quality.
The GTR is a straightline monster, even stock - it'll feel noticeably quicker than the Emira. The GTR does 0-100mph in 6.8 seconds, the Emira takes almost twice as long at 12.7 secs.
The Emira is lighter and I would imagine more involving to drive (steering feel, agility) whereas the GTR has a lot of stability and is very very capable.
If you're looking at spending this sort of money you might also want to consider a few other possibilities. The Alpine A110S is on a par with the Emira performance wise but cheaper and 300kg lighter so even more agile. You could also get a car that combines Lotus-like handling with GTR-like performance in the shape of a McLaren.
Surely the Emira is quicker to 100 than that, a Fiat Coupe was just over 14 seconds to 100 with less power all those years ago?The GTR is a straightline monster, even stock - it'll feel noticeably quicker than the Emira. The GTR does 0-100mph in 6.8 seconds, the Emira takes almost twice as long at 12.7 secs.
The Emira is lighter and I would imagine more involving to drive (steering feel, agility) whereas the GTR has a lot of stability and is very very capable.
If you're looking at spending this sort of money you might also want to consider a few other possibilities. The Alpine A110S is on a par with the Emira performance wise but cheaper and 300kg lighter so even more agile. You could also get a car that combines Lotus-like handling with GTR-like performance in the shape of a McLaren.
Emiras are little stunners. As are Fiat Coupes in my eyes.
samoht said:
The GTR is a straightline monster, even stock - it'll feel noticeably quicker than the Emira. The GTR does 0-100mph in 6.8 seconds, the Emira takes almost twice as long at 12.7 secs.
12.7 seconds sounds more like the Emira 1/4 mile time, not 0-100mph? There's no way 400hp and <1500KG of weight takes 12.7 seconds to get to 100, it'll be more like 10.As a comparison of 1/4 mile times for competing cars from Carwow
Cayman GTS - 12.3
Alpine A110S - 12.6
Toyota Supra - 12.7
A standard 2021MY GTR took 11.6 in the same test BTW, the 570S you suggested 11 dead.
Edited by SWoll on Wednesday 5th April 09:38
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