£50K 'not desirable/nickable' 2+2?
Discussion
So, I'm not sure if this is a 'rocking horse poo' question and doesn't actually exist, but lets throw it out there and see what goes!
As background, I've been driving a 2016 RS6 for the last 6 months, that attracted way to much attention round where I live, which resulted in it being stolen and subsequently recovered. It's obviously rattled my cage and have decided to chop it in for something else.
It's knocked my confidence in what to get next. I would like something interesting and PH worthy, but not being sought after by the criminal fraternity, so sort of has to slip under the radar.
I've got around £50K to play with and needs to be relatively modern, say within 10 years. I'm currently thinking:
Porsche 911 - Had one previously and liked.
BMW 850 - not sure if a bit sterile
Lexus LC500 - keen on these but never driven
Maserati Granturismo - Not very discreet and potentially expensive (well, more than others!)
AMG GT - not very discreet
Admittedly none of these are very discreet, I guess the question is, 'how not nickable are they?'
I also have a thing for big German barges and have an itch for a Panamera Tourismo.
What are your thoughts?
As background, I've been driving a 2016 RS6 for the last 6 months, that attracted way to much attention round where I live, which resulted in it being stolen and subsequently recovered. It's obviously rattled my cage and have decided to chop it in for something else.
It's knocked my confidence in what to get next. I would like something interesting and PH worthy, but not being sought after by the criminal fraternity, so sort of has to slip under the radar.
I've got around £50K to play with and needs to be relatively modern, say within 10 years. I'm currently thinking:
Porsche 911 - Had one previously and liked.
BMW 850 - not sure if a bit sterile
Lexus LC500 - keen on these but never driven
Maserati Granturismo - Not very discreet and potentially expensive (well, more than others!)
AMG GT - not very discreet
Admittedly none of these are very discreet, I guess the question is, 'how not nickable are they?'
I also have a thing for big German barges and have an itch for a Panamera Tourismo.
What are your thoughts?
I guess there's two markets for stolen cars, one's to use or sell the car itself, and one is to sell parts off the car.
The sports cars, and probably the Panamera, are presumably less desirable to steal because there's less of a market for sticking the parts on lower-spec cars than there is for the RS6 (and possibly the M5), and fewer around where owners might buy used parts from a potentially dodgy source. They'll also be less useful than a fast 4WD four-door.
I think you should be able to find stats on what cars get stolen. I'd be surprised if the LC500 is very near the top. That's what I'd vicariously have off your list, but not in faded yellow after I finally saw an LC500 that I didn't want.
The sports cars, and probably the Panamera, are presumably less desirable to steal because there's less of a market for sticking the parts on lower-spec cars than there is for the RS6 (and possibly the M5), and fewer around where owners might buy used parts from a potentially dodgy source. They'll also be less useful than a fast 4WD four-door.
I think you should be able to find stats on what cars get stolen. I'd be surprised if the LC500 is very near the top. That's what I'd vicariously have off your list, but not in faded yellow after I finally saw an LC500 that I didn't want.
3 years ago when I had my £50k for something fun I went with a Mercedes C63S coupe. Not as discrete as the saloon or estate but drives very well and sounds awesome for the money. Not sure if they are stollen in bug numbers or not, had mine for 3 years and not had any issues but it is garaged at home. For your £50k today you should be able to get a facelift (2019 or newer) C63S coupe.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306148...
I looked at 911's but couldn't find the one I wanted, looked at a few Cayman's but they are not 911's.
Fell in love with the looks and idea of the Aston V8 Vantage, found a beautiful sunburnt orange 4.7 V8 car but bottled it when I looked at the servicing costs.
Looked at the LC500 liked it but didn't love it, someone owns one locally and I see it about a lot, nice looking car but its something I would have bought with my head not heart I think..............
A friend has a Maserati Granturismo, looks and sounds epic but he's had a few issues with it and its currently off the road (again).
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202308291...
Really wanted a AMG GT but the cars I wanted were out of budget and they look like are still well over £50k, the C63S is 90% of the car for 50% of the price if you can live with the fact its 'just' a beefed up C class. Seriously have a look at some of the videos on the engineering under the car they are a unique and very upgraded chassis / body / drivetrain over the standard C class. The only real negative in my eyes is that at some point they will fall into ASBO territory with terrible loud exhausts, wrapped with body kits which is a bit meh for the future.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306148...
I looked at 911's but couldn't find the one I wanted, looked at a few Cayman's but they are not 911's.
Fell in love with the looks and idea of the Aston V8 Vantage, found a beautiful sunburnt orange 4.7 V8 car but bottled it when I looked at the servicing costs.
Looked at the LC500 liked it but didn't love it, someone owns one locally and I see it about a lot, nice looking car but its something I would have bought with my head not heart I think..............
A friend has a Maserati Granturismo, looks and sounds epic but he's had a few issues with it and its currently off the road (again).
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202308291...
Really wanted a AMG GT but the cars I wanted were out of budget and they look like are still well over £50k, the C63S is 90% of the car for 50% of the price if you can live with the fact its 'just' a beefed up C class. Seriously have a look at some of the videos on the engineering under the car they are a unique and very upgraded chassis / body / drivetrain over the standard C class. The only real negative in my eyes is that at some point they will fall into ASBO territory with terrible loud exhausts, wrapped with body kits which is a bit meh for the future.
LeeM135i said:
Really wanted a AMG GT but the cars I wanted were out of budget and they look like are still well over £50k, the C63S is 90% of the car for 50% of the price if you can live with the fact its 'just' a beefed up C class. Seriously have a look at some of the videos on the engineering under the car they are a unique and very upgraded chassis / body / drivetrain over the standard C class. The only real negative in my eyes is that at some point they will fall into ASBO territory with terrible loud exhausts, wrapped with body kits which is a bit meh for the future.
The C63S isn't 50% of the price though. It's about ten grand more for a similar age to the one you posted.Also the AMG GT is about 50% of the cost of the SLS, which is what it's an evolution of.
Has to be the GT all day long...
Edited by Luke. on Wednesday 30th August 17:19
My thinking on nickability is that you want to avoid discreet, practical, fast, all-weather, mass-market performance four-doors, as these are exactly what criminals seek out (and have since the days of the Cossie).
So what you want is head-turning, spectacular, not-that-practical, rare RWD two-doors. I'm not saying you have to buy a TVR Cerbera with a flip paint job, but that would probably be the ideal of non-nickable cars that I'd be heading towards.
After all, every head turned is a potential witness
So what you want is head-turning, spectacular, not-that-practical, rare RWD two-doors. I'm not saying you have to buy a TVR Cerbera with a flip paint job, but that would probably be the ideal of non-nickable cars that I'd be heading towards.
After all, every head turned is a potential witness
Luke. said:
LeeM135i said:
Really wanted a AMG GT but the cars I wanted were out of budget and they look like are still well over £50k, the C63S is 90% of the car for 50% of the price if you can live with the fact its 'just' a beefed up C class. Seriously have a look at some of the videos on the engineering under the car they are a unique and very upgraded chassis / body / drivetrain over the standard C class. The only real negative in my eyes is that at some point they will fall into ASBO territory with terrible loud exhausts, wrapped with body kits which is a bit meh for the future.
The C63S isn't 50% of the price though. It's about ten grand more for a similar age to the one you posted.Also the AMG GT is about 50% of the cost of the SLS, which is what it's an evolution of.
Has to be the GT all day long...
Edited by Luke. on Wednesday 30th August 17:19
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306158...
I'd probably got for a GTS like this, bit older, but that wouldn't worry me at all if the service history stacks up
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202307250...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202307250...
samoht said:
My thinking on nickability is that you want to avoid discreet, practical, fast, all-weather, mass-market performance four-doors, as these are exactly what criminals seek out (and have since the days of the Cossie).
So what you want is head-turning, spectacular, not-that-practical, rare RWD two-doors. I'm not saying you have to buy a TVR Cerbera with a flip paint job, but that would probably be the ideal of non-nickable cars that I'd be heading towards.
After all, every head turned is a potential witness
Exactly what I was going to say. So what you want is head-turning, spectacular, not-that-practical, rare RWD two-doors. I'm not saying you have to buy a TVR Cerbera with a flip paint job, but that would probably be the ideal of non-nickable cars that I'd be heading towards.
After all, every head turned is a potential witness
You're average scooter wouldn't even have a clue how to get in it.
Does fall foul of the max 10 year age though.
Luke. said:
I'd probably got for a GTS like this, bit older, but that wouldn't worry me at all if the service history stacks up
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202307250...
So much motor for the money I reckon. I'd love one. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202307250...
Helped by the fact that there isn't enough room for my missus and 2 kids either!
Apart from the noise of the engine, I'd love the calm and peacefulness of just being on my own driving that for sure.
Sounds like the LC500 is vulnerable to the standard Lexus trick of whipping the bumper off and jacking into Canbus. I don't know how likely this truly is to happen in reality, but it is a slight concern
https://www.lexusownersclub.co.uk/forum/topic/1438...
https://www.lexusownersclub.co.uk/forum/topic/1438...
ChocolateFrog said:
samoht said:
My thinking on nickability is that you want to avoid discreet, practical, fast, all-weather, mass-market performance four-doors, as these are exactly what criminals seek out (and have since the days of the Cossie).
So what you want is head-turning, spectacular, not-that-practical, rare RWD two-doors. I'm not saying you have to buy a TVR Cerbera with a flip paint job, but that would probably be the ideal of non-nickable cars that I'd be heading towards.
After all, every head turned is a potential witness
Exactly what I was going to say. So what you want is head-turning, spectacular, not-that-practical, rare RWD two-doors. I'm not saying you have to buy a TVR Cerbera with a flip paint job, but that would probably be the ideal of non-nickable cars that I'd be heading towards.
After all, every head turned is a potential witness
You're average scooter wouldn't even have a clue how to get in it.
Does fall foul of the max 10 year age though.
They are fantastic cars when they work though for certain.
As I was reading the OP's post I was thinking LC500. I'm biased because I've got one but I think they're fantastic cars and they look stunning.
As for theft, any car is potentially nickable so buy what you like and be as sensible and careful as you can with regards to physical security.
As for theft, any car is potentially nickable so buy what you like and be as sensible and careful as you can with regards to physical security.
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