Diesel engined cars in my sights again
Diesel engined cars in my sights again
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lornemalvo

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5,023 posts

97 months

Saturday 23rd September 2023
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I haven't had a diesel engine car for quite a while, but yesterday drove a hired 3.5 tonne horse box for my daughter. I had forgotten how much I like the characteristics of a diesel engine.. Obviously a horse box is the opposite of a performance car, especially with precious cargo in the back, but the effortless torque and acceptable refinement (Peugeot engine) made it a pleasure to drive. It encourages a more relaxed driving style when you can make decent progress at less than 2500 rpm. In today's traffic/road conditions that appeals to me.

I've been thinking about what to replace my Audi 2 litre TFSi A4 with and had dismissed anything with a diesel engine but that has changed. So I'm now looking for an estate or SUV, to include all types of engine. The five year reprieve for diesel engines has also helped. I had shortlisted the RX450h but having driven two, I'm unconvinced. I need something that will effortlessly tow a horse trailer and not get stuck in a field, with good levels of reliability

Don Roque

18,280 posts

188 months

Saturday 23rd September 2023
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Definitely do not get an XC90 then.

lornemalvo

Original Poster:

5,023 posts

97 months

Saturday 23rd September 2023
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Don Roque said:
Definitely do not get an XC90 then.
?? Reliability?

Yomamaisasnowblower

338 posts

46 months

Saturday 23rd September 2023
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BMW 335d touring - available in xdrive only, point to point in any weather (almost) is unstoppable imho. I know what you mean about a good diesel engine, quite satisfiying.

jonwm

2,726 posts

143 months

Sunday 24th September 2023
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I've always liked how a diesel drives, recently got my wife a 330d and it drives so nice, considering it's 10 years old it is so quiet, sounds totally differen to previous 4 pots I've had.


Belle427

11,835 posts

262 months

Sunday 24th September 2023
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330/335d as above.

lornemalvo

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5,023 posts

97 months

Sunday 24th September 2023
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I had a 330d for a few years. At two years old and low mileage it blew a turbo, clutch, DMF, and a couple of other bits resulting in a bill for £4000, and I'm a steady driver, and this was 15 years ago. Thank God it was under warranty, but it soured me on BMWs. Loved the car though

Jordie Barretts sock

6,018 posts

48 months

Sunday 24th September 2023
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Surely the answer is a TDV8 Range Rover?

MrGTI6

3,304 posts

159 months

Sunday 24th September 2023
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Totally agree with the OP. Diesels may have fallen out of favour of late, but for day-to-day use they are unbeatable and can be very satisfying to drive.

cayman-black

13,263 posts

245 months

Sunday 24th September 2023
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Jordie Barretts sock said:
Surely the answer is a TDV8 Range Rover?
I have the SDV8 its a great engine.

jason61c

5,978 posts

203 months

Sunday 24th September 2023
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lornemalvo said:
I haven't had a diesel engine car for quite a while, but yesterday drove a hired 3.5 tonne horse box for my daughter. I had forgotten how much I like the characteristics of a diesel engine.. Obviously a horse box is the opposite of a performance car, especially with precious cargo in the back, but the effortless torque and acceptable refinement (Peugeot engine) made it a pleasure to drive. It encourages a more relaxed driving style when you can make decent progress at less than 2500 rpm. In today's traffic/road conditions that appeals to me.

I've been thinking about what to replace my Audi 2 litre TFSi A4 with and had dismissed anything with a diesel engine but that has changed. So I'm now looking for an estate or SUV, to include all types of engine. The five year reprieve for diesel engines has also helped. I had shortlisted the RX450h but having driven two, I'm unconvinced. I need something that will effortlessly tow a horse trailer and not get stuck in a field, with good levels of reliability
We've got a xc90(2019 mild hybrid) for doing that, it tows at capacity without issue. amazing for a 2.0 oil burner, however the gearbox does most the work.

its tyres that get cars stuck, however you'd not be taking the car with trailer into too boggy a field anyway

Davie_GLA

6,876 posts

228 months

Sunday 24th September 2023
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I too share the pain of horse ownership and hiring boxes to get the horse, daughter and all the crap to and from shows is getting very expensive. I'm hiring at the weekend and it's around £120 for 9 hours and 200 miles limit. Anything over that is chargeable.

If I do this once a week in the summer and once a month in the winter i could buy a car and trailer and see an ROI fairly quickly (well, almost break even I guess).

I stumbled on this thread as I'm looking at 535d touring but i like the look of the 335dx a bit more and if i feel like it then it will shift itself around fairly effortlessly. I promise I won't mention a remap.... damn! biggrin

The issue i have is of course the cost of just running them before you put a splash of fuel in them. From memory even the 335 is what, £300 a year tax and i don't think it's LEZ compliant. The latter i can live with i guess as don't go into cities or any of the zones regularly.

Interested to hear if anyone has bought a 335d and had a play? The Birds conversions and options are attractive.

jason61c

5,978 posts

203 months

Sunday 24th September 2023
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3 series just has too low a capacity and a lack of weight to make a decent toe car for that sort of weight.

andy118run

959 posts

235 months

Sunday 24th September 2023
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lornemalvo said:
The five year reprieve for diesel engines has also helped.
Didn't Labour say they will revert back to the original 2030 plan if they get into government.
Anyway, no guarantee they will be there in 2030, I suppose.
Either way, I guess the 2030/35 thing is no deal breaker.

I often look at 330d/335d cars on AT and the Euro 6 compliance issue is interesting - I see another posting saying the 335 may not be Euro 6, but from what I've seen there are 335d cars from around 2014 which are Euro 6, yet 330ds of that era are always Euro 5.

Jordie Barretts sock

6,018 posts

48 months

Sunday 24th September 2023
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Hardly relevant when buying a car in 2023. If new it will 7/12 years old when the ban comes in. It will have done all it's deprecation.

If it's a couple of years old now then the argument becomes even less valid.

lornemalvo

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5,023 posts

97 months

Sunday 24th September 2023
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Jordie Barretts sock said:
Hardly relevant when buying a car in 2023. If new it will 7/12 years old when the ban comes in. It will have done all it's deprecation.

If it's a couple of years old now then the argument becomes even less valid.
71/2 ? really?

Jordie Barretts sock

6,018 posts

48 months

Sunday 24th September 2023
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Read that again. It will be 7 or 12 years old. Depending on a ban on new cars in 2030 or 2035.

GT9

8,961 posts

201 months

Sunday 24th September 2023
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Is this the point where the OP tells us he thought all ICEs were going to be banned from the roads in 2030...

What The Deuces

2,780 posts

53 months

Sunday 24th September 2023
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If anything it’ll depreciate less imo

People will still want them and new ones won’t be Available