How is best to pay for a private buy these days?
How is best to pay for a private buy these days?
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UTH

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11,647 posts

202 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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I might be buying a used car from a private seller soon......first time since 2010 that I've done that.

Back then I took money in cash, filled in the V5, sorted out insurance that I'd lined up on the phone from what I remember, and the tax back then came with the car.

What's the 'done thing' these days? Assuming I don't really fancy getting £X thousand out in cash, but also assuming the seller doesn't trust me saying "I'll do a bank transfer now" (I seem to remember a bank transfer is limited to £10k per day as well?) what are the options?

And I assume the seller will need to SORN it there and then and I then need to apply for the tax there and then as well? Or do I drive it home on their tax then the cancel it and I sort it when I get home?


Muzzer79

12,700 posts

211 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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Depends on the value IMO

Under £10k - cash is king.

Over £10k - bank transfer. If I was the seller, I'd want to speak to my bank to make sure it was irreversible, or go to a branch.

Different banks have different transfer limits - it's not a rigid £10k. You can also do BACS over the phone IINM, but it takes some time to process.

pingu393

10,403 posts

229 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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UTH said:
I might be buying a used car from a private seller soon......first time since 2010 that I've done that.

Back then I took money in cash, filled in the V5, sorted out insurance that I'd lined up on the phone from what I remember, and the tax back then came with the car.

What's the 'done thing' these days? Assuming I don't really fancy getting £X thousand out in cash, but also assuming the seller doesn't trust me saying "I'll do a bank transfer now" (I seem to remember a bank transfer is limited to £10k per day as well?) what are the options?

And I assume the seller will need to SORN it there and then and I then need to apply for the tax there and then as well? Or do I drive it home on their tax then the cancel it and I sort it when I get home?
They are the registered keeper until SORN'd or transferred. As such, they are responsible for all legal transgressions associated with the car. No more, no less.

You can transfer the registered keeper of a car on a mobile if you have the V5C. You would then be legally responsible for the car.

How you transfer ownership is between the two of you. If I were you, I'd get him to sign something like this...

https://www.theaa.com/car-buying/buyers-sellers-co...

I'd also add a clause about the car not being subject to any debts or loans.

I'm pretty sure that the transfer online includes a payment for the VED or a declaration of SORN.

duckson

1,298 posts

206 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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Transfer cash via bank transfer, depending on bank £25k is usually the limit of one transaction but you can do more in one day.....speak to your bank though as they can differ.

Ownership can be done online and then you tax the vehicle using the green slip on the V5.

https://www.gov.uk/responsibilities-selling-vehicl...

I assume you have done a HPI using a decent site? eg vcheck

UTH

Original Poster:

11,647 posts

202 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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Thanks guys, not seen the car yet, so not about to pull the trigger, but I'm in the market for one at the moment, so just finding out the best way to do it if/when I am ready to go.

It could be up to £30k hence thinking a bank transfer on the day might not work?

duckson

1,298 posts

206 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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UTH said:
Thanks guys, not seen the car yet, so not about to pull the trigger, but I'm in the market for one at the moment, so just finding out the best way to do it if/when I am ready to go.

It could be up to £30k hence thinking a bank transfer on the day might not work?
Which bank would you use?

samoht

7,003 posts

170 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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I've used bank transfer on the spot, £15k and low-20s, both times went through straight away and no problem driving / letting the buyer drive away.

It's ideal to have some sort of backup plan though.

UTH

Original Poster:

11,647 posts

202 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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duckson said:
UTH said:
Thanks guys, not seen the car yet, so not about to pull the trigger, but I'm in the market for one at the moment, so just finding out the best way to do it if/when I am ready to go.

It could be up to £30k hence thinking a bank transfer on the day might not work?
Which bank would you use?
I’m with Lloyds….

duckson

1,298 posts

206 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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UTH said:
duckson said:
UTH said:
Thanks guys, not seen the car yet, so not about to pull the trigger, but I'm in the market for one at the moment, so just finding out the best way to do it if/when I am ready to go.

It could be up to £30k hence thinking a bank transfer on the day might not work?
Which bank would you use?
I’m with Lloyds….
Looks like a £25k daily limit, CHAPS for a larger amount but in branch....if you have another account elsewhere you could always send the rest from this?

anonymous-user

78 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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Just take 5k cash, transfer the rest

UTH

Original Poster:

11,647 posts

202 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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duckson said:
UTH said:
duckson said:
UTH said:
Thanks guys, not seen the car yet, so not about to pull the trigger, but I'm in the market for one at the moment, so just finding out the best way to do it if/when I am ready to go.

It could be up to £30k hence thinking a bank transfer on the day might not work?
Which bank would you use?
I’m with Lloyds….
Looks like a £25k daily limit, CHAPS for a larger amount but in branch....if you have another account elsewhere you could always send the rest from this?
I have a Revolut account…..?

Snow and Rocks

3,116 posts

51 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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I went with my dad to buy a car last year. From memory it was £48k - we went with online transfer from 2 different bank accounts with no issue.

Might be worth doing during business hours so you can get hold of someone easily to clarify any issues.

Matty_

2,277 posts

281 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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I've always found it's best to transfer a small amount a few days before - £5, £10 or something between accounts. It was recommended to me by someone else on here and since then I've never had a payment held up, and can help avoid the fraud flags on transfers.

But as mentioned, limit is usually £25k. I've done transfers from two seperate bank accounts in the past.....I've also transferred part money the day before and crossed my fingers the seller is still there the next day wink Always do background checks on sellers!!


Fore Left

1,602 posts

206 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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Matty_ said:
I've always found it's best to transfer a small amount a few days before - £5, £10 or something between accounts. It was recommended to me by someone else on here and since then I've never had a payment held up, and can help avoid the fraud flags on transfers.

But as mentioned, limit is usually £25k. I've done transfers from two seperate bank accounts in the past.....I've also transferred part money the day before and crossed my fingers the seller is still there the next day wink Always do background checks on sellers!!
When you transfer the small amount ask the seller to tell you how much it was. Then you and the seller know you have the correct account and the seller can't claim they never received the full payment.

Belle427

11,387 posts

257 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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Phone apps may not allow the same as doing it through online banking, Barclays had different limits for each.
Worth checking a few days before you go.

bennno

14,929 posts

293 months

Saturday 4th November 2023
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Bank transfer from a laptop or tablet is up to £25k. Mobile app generally 10k. Limits per day.

Over that a transfer from a second personal account, or family member whose account you pre credit.

As for ID of seller, hpi check, that car and seller are both trustworthy and genuine. Written receipt stating no write off, no finance, his to sell etc.

Once paid simple on line transfer of ownership with dvla and you tax it before driving off. SORN not involved.

nordboy

2,902 posts

74 months

Saturday 4th November 2023
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I did a £24k transfer last year from my first direct phone app, when I bought my Jag. I was expecting it to get held up and to have to call them, but it went straight through no issues.

Sold my daughters car this week, I was happy to take a bank transfer, just made sure it was in my account first before the car went out of the drive.

duckson

1,298 posts

206 months

Saturday 4th November 2023
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bennno said:
Bank transfer from a laptop or tablet is up to £25k. Mobile app generally 10k. Limits per day.
No it isn’t.
Maybe look into who you are banking with first.
Lloyds app is £25k per day.
Santander (for example) is £100k in £25k payments, app, website, whatever.

ZX10R NIN

30,060 posts

149 months

Saturday 4th November 2023
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If your limit is 25k just bring 5k cash it may well prove to be a good bargaining chip,

bennno

14,929 posts

293 months

Saturday 4th November 2023
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duckson said:
bennno said:
Bank transfer from a laptop or tablet is up to £25k. Mobile app generally 10k. Limits per day.
No it isn’t.
Maybe look into who you are banking with first.
Lloyds app is £25k per day.
Santander (for example) is £100k in £25k payments, app, website, whatever.
That’s handy to know, I was referencing hsbc and Santander’s previous policy.

Will Santander allow you to make multiple £25k payments to the same individual in the same day?

Edited by bennno on Saturday 4th November 17:03