How invasive would you allow an inspection to be?
How invasive would you allow an inspection to be?
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donkmeister

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11,787 posts

124 months

Monday 9th September 2024
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Mrs D is contemplating a particular model of car which, whilst generally reliable, is a model where low compression is not uncommon, and can be pretty well hidden until it gets to a critical point and then it's very suddenly rebuild time.

I have no difficulties with compression testing, but it hasn't escaped my notice that even enthusiasts may tell me to ps off if I show up with my test kit and ask to start dismantling their engine. On the other hand, I've sold cars where the purchaser got a man from the RAC to spend an hour checking plenty of things and I had no issues with leaving him to get on with it (once I'd checked his ID with the RAC). He could have done a compression test and I wouldn't have known.

So, where would you draw the line with a prospective purchaser?

Rough101

2,999 posts

99 months

Monday 9th September 2024
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Not a chance unless it was a specialist with insurance.

One cross threaded plug or crap dropped into the bore is a disaster and frankly I don’t know who you are.

CoreyDog

872 posts

114 months

Monday 9th September 2024
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Rough101 said:
Not a chance unless it was a specialist with insurance.

One cross threaded plug or crap dropped into the bore is a disaster and frankly I don’t know who you are.
^^^ This ^^^

A specialist garage with the knowledge and appropriate insurance, no issue.

Some random person turning up to view and wanting to start taking parts off and messing? Not a chance.

CHLEMCBC

1,259 posts

41 months

Monday 9th September 2024
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Why even contemplate such a vehicle?

vaud

58,120 posts

179 months

Monday 9th September 2024
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donkmeister said:
So, where would you draw the line with a prospective purchaser?
You can bring a torch and a code reader. You can take off plastic engine covers.

Anything else you can pay for a professional inspection with insurance and maybe we will split the cost if you buy it.

mac96

5,805 posts

167 months

Monday 9th September 2024
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If it's an RX8, then the seller should expect a buyer to be concerned about compression.
The only issue really is proving to the seller that you know what you are doing!

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

197 months

Monday 9th September 2024
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If they were genuine then as a compromise I'd do it for them. I know I'm unlikely to break anything.

If they were genuine I'm sure they wouldn't have an issue with that.


Dog Biscuit

1,817 posts

21 months

Monday 9th September 2024
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Tell your wife to think again and choose something less risky is the best bet I'd say.

Lozw86

901 posts

156 months

Monday 9th September 2024
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I imagine many sellers wouldn’t even know what a compression test is, let alone let you conduct one

donkmeister

Original Poster:

11,787 posts

124 months

Monday 9th September 2024
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OK, much as I thought, the consensus is "ps off!", with "maybe if you bring a mechanic with insurance" coming in a close second and "no, go on, ps off and take your compression tester with you" third. hehe

Good to gauge opinion, I wasn't sure if I was being a pessimist.

CHLEMCBC said:
Why even contemplate such a vehicle?
Dog Biscuit said:
Tell your wife to think again and choose something less risky is the best bet I'd say.
If she were after something like a modern BMW or modern Ford I'd agree, but we're talking about a rather rare vehicle that can succumb to a lack of mechanical sympathy and/or incorrect servicing. This is PH after all, doesn't everyone have at least one such car on their fleet? biggrin

Nickp82

3,817 posts

117 months

Monday 9th September 2024
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Is it an RX-8 (or 7)? Because I’ve bought hundreds over the years and never had anyone object to me doing a compression test.

Dog Biscuit

1,817 posts

21 months

Monday 9th September 2024
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donkmeister said:
OK, much as I thought, the consensus is "ps off!", with "maybe if you bring a mechanic with insurance" coming in a close second and "no, go on, ps off and take your compression tester with you" third. hehe

Good to gauge opinion, I wasn't sure if I was being a pessimist.

CHLEMCBC said:
Why even contemplate such a vehicle?
Dog Biscuit said:
Tell your wife to think again and choose something less risky is the best bet I'd say.
If she were after something like a modern BMW or modern Ford I'd agree, but we're talking about a rather rare vehicle that can succumb to a lack of mechanical sympathy and/or incorrect servicing. This is PH after all, doesn't everyone have at least one such car on their fleet? biggrin
I've had a few 'problem' cars over the years - 911 with scored bores, E90 M3 with rod bearings failure et al. I just couldn't run another car with serious failure modes again, no matter how rare it may be.

I'd prefer a path with a little less resistance and sleep well at night. sun


BertBert

20,942 posts

235 months

Monday 9th September 2024
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Nickp82 said:
Is it an RX-8 (or 7)? Because I’ve bought hundreds over the years and never had anyone object to me doing a compression test.
how come you've bought hundreds? Just curious!

Fast and Spurious

1,802 posts

112 months

Monday 9th September 2024
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Because they've all been fked.

Wacky Racer

40,712 posts

271 months

Monday 9th September 2024
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BertBert said:
Nickp82 said:
Is it an RX-8 (or 7)? Because I’ve bought hundreds over the years and never had anyone object to me doing a compression test.
how come you've bought hundreds? Just curious!
+1

Nickp82

3,817 posts

117 months

Monday 9th September 2024
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BertBert said:
how come you've bought hundreds? Just curious!
Because I’m a car dealer who really likes RX-8s (genuinely)

BertBert

20,942 posts

235 months

Monday 9th September 2024
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Nickp82 said:
Because I’m a car dealer who really likes RX-8s (genuinely)
Cool!

ingenieur

4,643 posts

205 months

Tuesday 10th September 2024
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Easy way to settle this it to make it a condition of the sale. i.e. if it's something like the RX8 which may have compression problems then you say to the seller the cars are known for it and you want to make sure it isn't a problem before you buy. They say yes or no and that is the decider for whether or not you go for it.

ingenieur

4,643 posts

205 months

Tuesday 10th September 2024
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Nickp82 said:
BertBert said:
how come you've bought hundreds? Just curious!
Because I’m a car dealer who really likes RX-8s (genuinely)
Is it as common a problem as people suggest?

Lester H

4,044 posts

129 months

Tuesday 10th September 2024
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vaud said:
donkmeister said:
So, where would you draw the line with a prospective purchaser?
You can bring a torch and a code reader. You can take off plastic engine covers.

Anything else you can pay for a professional inspection with insurance and maybe we will split the cost if you buy it.
…but would you be obliged to split the cost if the inspection merely confirmed your description of the car? Also professional inspectors vary in quality though, doubtless have their own liability cover. The answer also depends on the value, but more importantly, the rarity of the vehicle. Simply put, a Ferrari requires a specific expert. A ten year old Corsa does not - it is what it is .