Replacing Ranger Rover L405 with other family SUV

[arbit]

Hi guys,

I've bought an approved L405 P400e (so the hybrid) in Autobiography trim a year ago for £43k as I always wanted to own a full fat Range Rover and the hybrid works so well for me as I commute to work via train and the station is about a 5min drive away.

While I usually enjoy driving the RR it does feel like a boat and we live in the countryside where I'd prefer a bit of a sportier/agile drive for all the country roads. Size wise it's not ideal either as I almost got stuck a few times trying to park and the width on narrow roads isn't great either but most SUVs seem to be as wide.

The other factor is that the renewal of the insurance is as high as it was a year ago - I assumed this would come down with the security updates. Similarly, I'd want to take out the LR warranty again, which is around £1.5k pa. So the yearly running cost for insurance and warranty are £4k, which seems a bit ridiculous for what's on offer and we don't drive a lot anyway, certainly sub 4k miles.

Finally, what I am really disappointed with is the practicality - the car is huge but I don't find the interior space that large. The boot is small (executive seats and battery pack) and the rear seats don't have that much leg room either, which I really notice with children's car seats as they do stick out quite a bit.

I've started looking for some alternatives now before the insurance renewal happens - petrol engine SUVs mainly but also at the Tesla Model Y which is now crossed off the list due to ride quality issues.

The two cars that seem to tick most boxes are used Cayennes and Q7s. The Q7 wins for practicality due to option of the extra two seats and the larger boot space. The Cayenne is probably better to drive and looks a lot nicer.

Does anyone have any further suggestions with regards to what to look out for - a quick Autotrader search gives for example the following, which both look decent:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202407171...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202408162...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202407252...

Q7
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202411116...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202410094...

Any further food for thought regarding my suggestions?

Thanks

[cayman-black]

I can tell you now that the Q7 is as big as the Range Rover.

[macron]

Out of interest what is yours worth a year after a 43k buy? Appreciate it mag depend on what you trade it against.

And I'd buy an X3M.

[Mouse Rat]

We was looking at both the RR P400e and Model Y, and discounted D5, Q7 and Cayenne due to ugliness.

Apart from ground clearance, ride and interior quality we couldn't justify choosing the RR over the Tesla.
Unless you drive on rough roads or need offroad capability the Model Y is the better option. Its a brilliant car overall.

[ZX10R NIN]

The Cayenne is the pick out of those two.

Leftfield

GV70:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202411146...

[Unexpected Item In The Bagging Area]

The Volvo XC90 T8 is worth a look. We’re about to switch from an L405 to the B5-engined version. It has 7 seats, a boot around the same size as the RR’s, more modern tech, very different driving dynamics and lower running costs.

Also it can be specced with an integrated booster seat in the middle of the second row which allows you to fit a child seat either side giving room for 3 young kids without having to use the third row.

[arbit]

cayman-black said:

I can tell you now that the Q7 is as big as the Range Rover.

Yes but at least it has the appropriate space inside.

macron said:

Out of interest what is yours worth a year after a 43k buy? Appreciate it mag depend on what you trade it against.

And I'd buy an X3M.

Autotrader shows the part exchange value as £29.5k and when I search myself on Autotrader the cheapest comparable one is £38k.

Mouse Rat said:

We was looking at both the RR P400e and Model Y, and discounted D5, Q7 and Cayenne due to ugliness.

Apart from ground clearance, ride and interior quality we couldn't justify choosing the RR over the Tesla.
Unless you drive on rough roads or need offroad capability the Model Y is the better option. Its a brilliant car overall.

Perhaps it’s worth a test drive at least and we do have the charger. Lots of people where we live drive the MY.

Unexpected Item In The Bagging Area said:

The Volvo XC90 T8 is worth a look. We’re about to switch from an L405 to the B5-engined version. It has 7 seats, a boot around the same size as the RR’s, more modern tech, very different driving dynamics and lower running costs.

Also it can be specced with an integrated booster seat in the middle of the second row which allows you to fit a child seat either side giving room for 3 young kids without having to use the third row.

I don’t disagree but Volvo has been vetoed by the boss.

ZX10R NIN said:

The Cayenne is the pick out of those two.

Leftfield

GV70:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202411146...

But why is the Cayenne the pick?

[jamesbilluk]

Similar to the Q7, but there's also the Touareg
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/17502629

[Snow and Rocks]

I think a Model Y is going to be pretty disappointing if you're used to running around in a Range Rover? We have one and while they clearly have their strengths, they're absolutely not a luxury car - despite the EV silence the ride and general refinement are crap and the interior cheap and nasty with terrible ergonomics. Still a wide car too so not much of a gain there.

I guess the build quality and reliability are along the same lines as the Rangey if nothing else!

[ZX10R NIN]

arbit said:

But why is the Cayenne the pick?

Because it's the better steer out of the two, not quite as spacious but a step up interior wise too.