New Lexus NX450+ vs New VW Tiguan- Choice?
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I am trying to decide between these two cars, both are PHEV and the Lexus is a little bit more expensive.
The Tiguan is the top R-line and the Lexus is premium with the pan roof.
I am not blown away with either of the looks, think the older Tiguan looks better, the Tiguan has a longer electric range and bigger boot, but having never owned a Lexus or Toyota, I have no experience.
Also as a 3yr lease, the reliability is less of a concern.
I am going to try and get a test drive, but always feel guilty going to a showroom and having no interest in buying from them!
What would you choose, is the Lexus NX range a step up in quality?
The Tiguan is the top R-line and the Lexus is premium with the pan roof.
I am not blown away with either of the looks, think the older Tiguan looks better, the Tiguan has a longer electric range and bigger boot, but having never owned a Lexus or Toyota, I have no experience.
Also as a 3yr lease, the reliability is less of a concern.
I am going to try and get a test drive, but always feel guilty going to a showroom and having no interest in buying from them!
What would you choose, is the Lexus NX range a step up in quality?
I've had a leased NX for 2 months now. I've been very impressed with it thus far. Even in this cold weather I'm comfortably getting 40 miles of electric range. One thing to note about the lexus, is it keeps 30% of the charge in reserve to maintain the performance. It's a very relaxing car to drive and pretty fast in both EV and hybrid mode. Overall the implementation of the electric drivetrain seems better than those I have experienced with Mercedes and BMW - although, I admit, I've not tried the VAG offering.
Also worth noting that the boot of the Tiguan PHEV is not any bigger than NX. The standard tiguan, yes but the PHEV eats into the boot.
Rav 4 and Suzuki Across are the same as the NX under the skin and could be worth a look.
Also worth noting that the boot of the Tiguan PHEV is not any bigger than NX. The standard tiguan, yes but the PHEV eats into the boot.
Rav 4 and Suzuki Across are the same as the NX under the skin and could be worth a look.
FamousPheasant said:
I've had a leased NX for 2 months now. I've been very impressed with it thus far. Even in this cold weather I'm comfortably getting 40 miles of electric range. One thing to note about the lexus, is it keeps 30% of the charge in reserve to maintain the performance. It's a very relaxing car to drive and pretty fast in both EV and hybrid mode. Overall the implementation of the electric drivetrain seems better than those I have experienced with Mercedes and BMW - although, I admit, I've not tried the VAG offering.
Also worth noting that the boot of the Tiguan PHEV is not any bigger than NX. The standard tiguan, yes but the PHEV eats into the boot.
Rav 4 and Suzuki Across are the same as the NX under the skin and could be worth a look.
Having owned a Suzuki Across for a few months now with the same chassis and drivetrain I agree with all this. It's not sporty at all but is incredibly relaxing and is almost unnecessarily quick at pretty much any speed. Best all round car I've owned with some surprising used bargains if you're not bothered about it being a Lexus. Much, much better car overall than our Model Y if that means anything. Also worth noting that the boot of the Tiguan PHEV is not any bigger than NX. The standard tiguan, yes but the PHEV eats into the boot.
Rav 4 and Suzuki Across are the same as the NX under the skin and could be worth a look.
If you're planning on owning it long term it's also worth looking into just how cleverly engineered the Toyota hybrid system is - it's not only smooth and very efficient, it removes almost all of the wear/maintenance points of most ICEs which, when combined with Toyota/Lexus build quality makes for incredibly hassle free and ultimately cheap long term ownership.
Not sure how VW have implemented it but some of the other PHEVs (Volvo and BMW) I looked at were ridiculously gutless as EVs whereas the Toyota still has 240bhp from the electric motors alone. I was also wary of their short warranties given the inherent complexity of their designs with turbochargers, DSG boxes etc plus hybrid stuff. Aging German cars are bad enough even without all that!
One thing putting me off a new NX atm for my mum is the lack of shortcut to disable the intelligent speed assist bongs (EU mandated), It's 7 steps every time you want to turn it off (every time you start the car)
Seems a crazy thing to discount a car for, but X3s etc have a 1 button shortcut on the steering wheel
Seems a crazy thing to discount a car for, but X3s etc have a 1 button shortcut on the steering wheel
SP_ said:
One thing putting me off a new NX atm for my mum is the lack of shortcut to disable the intelligent speed assist bongs (EU mandated), It's 7 steps every time you want to turn it off (every time you start the car)
Seems a crazy thing to discount a car for, but X3s etc have a 1 button shortcut on the steering wheel
Was just about to post something like this. Seems a crazy thing to discount a car for, but X3s etc have a 1 button shortcut on the steering wheel
One of the major considerations of buying any new car these days is to how easy it is to switch all the nanny state s
t off. Was a passenger in a mates new VW SUV recently (not sure which one) and the level of intervention from the car just moving about is unbelievable. Bong, bong, bong all the bloody time. Lane keep assist is also bloody dangerous. Switch it off and a flashing message on the dash keeps telling you "lane keep assist deactivated" as if you're going to instantly die. I could not own a car like that no matter how good the rest of it is.
Mack11 said:
I am trying to decide between these two cars, both are PHEV and the Lexus is a little bit more expensive.
The Tiguan is the top R-line and the Lexus is premium with the pan roof.
I am not blown away with either of the looks, think the older Tiguan looks better, the Tiguan has a longer electric range and bigger boot, but having never owned a Lexus or Toyota, I have no experience.
Also as a 3yr lease, the reliability is less of a concern.
I am going to try and get a test drive, but always feel guilty going to a showroom and having no interest in buying from them!
What would you choose, is the Lexus NX range a step up in quality?
Check the insurance on the Lexus and dont depend on comparison sites go direct to the insurer, I had issues insuring the 450 Ive got on lease and it was very expensive. Also some other poster pointed out the tyres on these are £300 a corner as run flats only 1 brand so if your doing the miles factor it in.The Tiguan is the top R-line and the Lexus is premium with the pan roof.
I am not blown away with either of the looks, think the older Tiguan looks better, the Tiguan has a longer electric range and bigger boot, but having never owned a Lexus or Toyota, I have no experience.
Also as a 3yr lease, the reliability is less of a concern.
I am going to try and get a test drive, but always feel guilty going to a showroom and having no interest in buying from them!
What would you choose, is the Lexus NX range a step up in quality?
Edited by PostHeads123 on Thursday 5th December 15:05
lornemalvo said:
I would get insurance quotes for both. I'm not sure if the NX is vulnerable to the same canbus thefts as the RX, but an elevated insurance quote would probably be an indication that they are.
On the 2024 model its supposed to sorted, some protection plate in place and they encrypted canbus or something, lots of 'Lexus Security' stickers visable in the windows lol - insurance still a pain though As an aside if you're not interested in a brand new car or the Lexus badge and flash interior then I bought my Across outright for £20k from a Suzuki main dealer a few months back. Under warranty until 2029/100k and is pretty much spotless.
It's the same car underneath and still pretty much fully loaded just with a Suzuki badge. It has lane assist and lots of nannying safety stuff but it can all be easily turned off and stays off even when you restart the car. Active cruise is pretty good though!
About the only thing that isn't great is the graphics of the touchscreen - it all still works intuitively though and there are proper substantial feeling physical controls for everything you're likely to need to use while driving.
Insurance seemed reasonable and tyres were £140 a corner for Michelin Cross Climates recently. It has a proper spare too. As far as I was aware the Rav4 PHEV and Across weren't affected by the canbus theft issue so I'm surprised the NX450+ is given it's so closely related.
It's the same car underneath and still pretty much fully loaded just with a Suzuki badge. It has lane assist and lots of nannying safety stuff but it can all be easily turned off and stays off even when you restart the car. Active cruise is pretty good though!
About the only thing that isn't great is the graphics of the touchscreen - it all still works intuitively though and there are proper substantial feeling physical controls for everything you're likely to need to use while driving.
Insurance seemed reasonable and tyres were £140 a corner for Michelin Cross Climates recently. It has a proper spare too. As far as I was aware the Rav4 PHEV and Across weren't affected by the canbus theft issue so I'm surprised the NX450+ is given it's so closely related.
Edited by Snow and Rocks on Thursday 5th December 14:51
SP_ said:
One thing putting me off a new NX atm for my mum is the lack of shortcut to disable the intelligent speed assist bongs (EU mandated), It's 7 steps every time you want to turn it off (every time you start the car)
Seems a crazy thing to discount a car for, but X3s etc have a 1 button shortcut on the steering wheel
I have a NX. It's only two button presses on the touch screen. Seems a crazy thing to discount a car for, but X3s etc have a 1 button shortcut on the steering wheel
Annoying, but not that bad.
FamousPheasant said:
SP_ said:
One thing putting me off a new NX atm for my mum is the lack of shortcut to disable the intelligent speed assist bongs (EU mandated), It's 7 steps every time you want to turn it off (every time you start the car)
Seems a crazy thing to discount a car for, but X3s etc have a 1 button shortcut on the steering wheel
I have a NX. It's only two button presses on the touch screen. Seems a crazy thing to discount a car for, but X3s etc have a 1 button shortcut on the steering wheel
Annoying, but not that bad.
Last I heard it was this...
"
Hi, with my RX (Gen 5) to disable the speed warning for each trip involves the following:
1. Tap Vehicle icon
2. Tap Driving Assist
3. Swipe screen left then press Customise
4. Tap Notification
5. Tap Excess Speed Notification
6. Choose Off, Visual or Audible and Visual (the default) - I choose Visual only
7. Tap OK
….then drive 😂
In answer to your second question, no Sport mode doesn’t automatically disable the beeps in my car, but you can drive in Sports mode on pure EV.
Hope this helps"
SP_ said:
FamousPheasant said:
SP_ said:
One thing putting me off a new NX atm for my mum is the lack of shortcut to disable the intelligent speed assist bongs (EU mandated), It's 7 steps every time you want to turn it off (every time you start the car)
Seems a crazy thing to discount a car for, but X3s etc have a 1 button shortcut on the steering wheel
I have a NX. It's only two button presses on the touch screen. Seems a crazy thing to discount a car for, but X3s etc have a 1 button shortcut on the steering wheel
Annoying, but not that bad.
Last I heard it was this...
"
Hi, with my RX (Gen 5) to disable the speed warning for each trip involves the following:
1. Tap Vehicle icon
2. Tap Driving Assist
3. Swipe screen left then press Customise
4. Tap Notification
5. Tap Excess Speed Notification
6. Choose Off, Visual or Audible and Visual (the default) - I choose Visual only
7. Tap OK
….then drive ??
In answer to your second question, no Sport mode doesn’t automatically disable the beeps in my car, but you can drive in Sports mode on pure EV.
Hope this helps"
FamousPheasant said:
SP_ said:
FamousPheasant said:
SP_ said:
One thing putting me off a new NX atm for my mum is the lack of shortcut to disable the intelligent speed assist bongs (EU mandated), It's 7 steps every time you want to turn it off (every time you start the car)
Seems a crazy thing to discount a car for, but X3s etc have a 1 button shortcut on the steering wheel
I have a NX. It's only two button presses on the touch screen. Seems a crazy thing to discount a car for, but X3s etc have a 1 button shortcut on the steering wheel
Annoying, but not that bad.
Last I heard it was this...
"
Hi, with my RX (Gen 5) to disable the speed warning for each trip involves the following:
1. Tap Vehicle icon
2. Tap Driving Assist
3. Swipe screen left then press Customise
4. Tap Notification
5. Tap Excess Speed Notification
6. Choose Off, Visual or Audible and Visual (the default) - I choose Visual only
7. Tap OK
….then drive ??
In answer to your second question, no Sport mode doesn’t automatically disable the beeps in my car, but you can drive in Sports mode on pure EV.
Hope this helps"
FamousPheasant said:
SP_ said:
Interesting - I'm guessing that turns the speed limit display off in the HUD and all though, rather than just audible & visual overspeed noises and flashing?
No, it does turn off the audible bongs too. Gassing Station | Car Buying | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff