2012 / 2013 VW polo DSG
2012 / 2013 VW polo DSG
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Roboticarm

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1,647 posts

85 months

Saturday 4th January 2025
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Hi all
Dad is struggling with a manual so needs an auto, he's zoomed in on 2012 - 2013 VW polos with the DSG box.
I know some early DSG boxes were known to fail, wondering if anyone can confirm if this age of Polo is a concern or not please?

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wyson

3,924 posts

128 months

Saturday 4th January 2025
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Yes, they are st and unreliable.

From what I gather, it needs to be much newer, 2018, 2019 before DSG’s improved. I drove a 2022 Polo DSG, I couldn’t believe the difference compared to early DSG’s I drove which were dim witted and jerky. On the older cars, there were tons of forum reports about the DSG’s needing £1.5k mechatronic rebuilds just outside warranty that VW wouldn’t help with as well.

Edited by wyson on Saturday 4th January 18:25

Roboticarm

Original Poster:

1,647 posts

85 months

Saturday 4th January 2025
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Thank you
He's also now considering a Up with the ASG gearbox, wondering if ASG is better ?

paradigital

1,078 posts

176 months

Saturday 4th January 2025
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To add some counter-balance to the argument.

Back in 2017-2019 we had a 2011 1.4 Polo with a DSG box and it was faultless.

It was replaced with a 2015 1.2 TSi Yeti with a DSG box and it was faultless.

That was replaced with a 2018 Passat GTE with a DSG box and it has been faultless.

The only DSG issue I’ve ever had (and we’ve had 5 DSG equipped cars over the years) is with the absolute earliest of DSG boxes mated to my 2004 3.2 TT MK1. It required a rebuild at the cost of around £1200, which when you compare to a DMF clutch replacement isn’t too bad in my opinion considering it had covered 96,000 likely hard miles, it certainly covered 15,000 relatively hard miles under my stewardship, and it died whilst being thrashed round Curborough Sprint Course.

trevalvole

1,937 posts

57 months

Sunday 5th January 2025
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How about a Mazda2 with a torque converter auto?

BertBert

20,935 posts

235 months

Sunday 5th January 2025
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I had a later model DSG polo for a short period so can't comment on the reliability. But both me and Mrs Bert hated driving it so I moved on.

The problem was that the footbrake was the mechanism that disengaged the clutch as you came to a halt. Then you had to keep your foot on the footbrake or change to neutral.

Then starting off was horrible. If you were gentle with the throttle it took an she to get going. If you used more throttle the clutch engaged with a mighty jerk!

I more recently drove a 2024 cupra DSG with auto hold which controlled the clutch. Much improved but still not very nice. I'm still out off the VW DSG box.

My VW Touareg with its slushbox auto is much nicer.

dontlookdown

2,390 posts

117 months

Sunday 5th January 2025
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trevalvole said:
How about a Mazda2 with a torque converter auto?
Mazda 2 is an under rated small car that is definitely worth trying. I had one as a courtesy car for a couple of weeks a couple of years ago and it was great, peppy to drive and felt well screwed together.

georgeyboy12345

4,276 posts

59 months

Sunday 5th January 2025
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Most Polos with perhaps the exception of some of the GTI models will be using the dry clutch DQ200 DSG gearboxes, which deservedly have a bad rep - jerky and unreliable. In fact, most VW group models with 1.6 litre engines and smaller will likely be using the DQ200s. All the other DSG 'boxes are wet clutch and much better.

I'd tell your Dad to look at larger engined cars (ideally 2 litre models) with the better wet clutch gearboxes.


Roboticarm

Original Poster:

1,647 posts

85 months

Sunday 5th January 2025
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Thanks all
Sounds like the DSG is best avoided, appreciate your help