XF- why so cheap?
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Hello ladies and gentleman
I am currently looking at cars because I have never had automatic or rwd that’s the cars I’m looking at at the moment. My option are limited to Mercedes, BMW, 300c and Jaguar XF.
I have noticed that they are really cheap compared to the other ones, you can pick one up for less than 2 grand nowadays.
Are they really that bad? Do they break down often or what is the reason for the cheap prices ?
I like this one quite a bit
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024091340...
I am currently looking at cars because I have never had automatic or rwd that’s the cars I’m looking at at the moment. My option are limited to Mercedes, BMW, 300c and Jaguar XF.
I have noticed that they are really cheap compared to the other ones, you can pick one up for less than 2 grand nowadays.
Are they really that bad? Do they break down often or what is the reason for the cheap prices ?
I like this one quite a bit
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024091340...
FilH said:
Cheep underpriced car, for sale,
Location checked .... Had to be in Birmingham! Run away and don't look back.
It’s local Location checked .... Had to be in Birmingham! Run away and don't look back.
I don’t agree with the Birmingham/ Bradford/ Croydon narrative. My current car is a Civic that I bought from Muhammad with 175k miles and it’s spot on.
So basically it’s cheap because if something goes wrong it won’t be cheap?
As an Xf owner, few pointers to look out for:
If the rear subframe is showing excessive rusting - walk away.
Is it the 3.0d? check the timing belt has been done at 80K. alternators tend to fail around 80k -100k mark, inlet manifolds can crack leading to pressure loss, door and window mechanisms don't like cold frosty mornings, reverse cameras and parking sensors are prone to failing due to the wiring loom in the boot becoming worn when opening / closing bootlid.
Check in the boot under the matting - slam panels can let water in and this fills the boot space where the ecu and battery is stored.
Often see these going cheap and tbh, they aren't as costly to service and maintain as people make out. you can still get pattern parts online and if you get the car sorted, they are amazingly comfortable and refined.
If the rear subframe is showing excessive rusting - walk away.
Is it the 3.0d? check the timing belt has been done at 80K. alternators tend to fail around 80k -100k mark, inlet manifolds can crack leading to pressure loss, door and window mechanisms don't like cold frosty mornings, reverse cameras and parking sensors are prone to failing due to the wiring loom in the boot becoming worn when opening / closing bootlid.
Check in the boot under the matting - slam panels can let water in and this fills the boot space where the ecu and battery is stored.
Often see these going cheap and tbh, they aren't as costly to service and maintain as people make out. you can still get pattern parts online and if you get the car sorted, they are amazingly comfortable and refined.
STe_rsv4 said:
As an Xf owner, few pointers to look out for:
If the rear subframe is showing excessive rusting - walk away.
Is it the 3.0d? check the timing belt has been done at 80K. alternators tend to fail around 80k -100k mark, inlet manifolds can crack leading to pressure loss, door and window mechanisms don't like cold frosty mornings, reverse cameras and parking sensors are prone to failing due to the wiring loom in the boot becoming worn when opening / closing bootlid.
Check in the boot under the matting - slam panels can let water in and this fills the boot space where the ecu and battery is stored.
Often see these going cheap and tbh, they aren't as costly to service and maintain as people make out. you can still get pattern parts online and if you get the car sorted, they are amazingly comfortable and refined.
Thank you very much.If the rear subframe is showing excessive rusting - walk away.
Is it the 3.0d? check the timing belt has been done at 80K. alternators tend to fail around 80k -100k mark, inlet manifolds can crack leading to pressure loss, door and window mechanisms don't like cold frosty mornings, reverse cameras and parking sensors are prone to failing due to the wiring loom in the boot becoming worn when opening / closing bootlid.
Check in the boot under the matting - slam panels can let water in and this fills the boot space where the ecu and battery is stored.
Often see these going cheap and tbh, they aren't as costly to service and maintain as people make out. you can still get pattern parts online and if you get the car sorted, they are amazingly comfortable and refined.
This was the sort of input I was looking for, much appreciated
Turbo actuators tend to go between 80,000 and 100,000 miles.
Engine plastics can go brittle as can hoses, so have a good look at the engine bay and the cooling system.
The 3.0 engine is a decent unit but sensitive to servicing and using a good quality oil.
Boot lids were known to scab so check for corrosion
Just to add as well, the "Luxury" model is the bottom of the range. Next up you have Premium Luxury - my girlfriend had a Premium Luxury one and it came with an upgraded stereo, heated front screen, memory seats and front & rear parking sensors ... however my memory is fuzzy about how much of that also came on the Luxury. Then at the top of the tree you had the Portfolio, no idea what extra bits and bobs that came with, but I'm sure a quick google would confirm. It's hardly like the Luxury model is completely poverty-spec, but there may be some nice extras on a PL/Portfolio that you decide are worth seeking out.
My girlfriend's was a good car, nothing went wrong, but she moved to a flat inside the Birmingham clean air zone last summer, and that Jag didn't qualify for free entry. Bought it at 110k for £3300, sold it about 10 months later at 120k for (i think) £2500. She replaced it with a newer XF that did qualify, so that tells you what she thought of the car.
My girlfriend's was a good car, nothing went wrong, but she moved to a flat inside the Birmingham clean air zone last summer, and that Jag didn't qualify for free entry. Bought it at 110k for £3300, sold it about 10 months later at 120k for (i think) £2500. She replaced it with a newer XF that did qualify, so that tells you what she thought of the car.
Maybe I’m mistaken by don’t they all come with heated screen? I would’ve assumed with it being owned by Ford that time.
I knew the trim levels, but I think any spec would be an upgrade for me personally. The best specced and best overall car I’ve had was a Mondeo Titanium X. I’m sure the XF is superior in almost every way
I knew the trim levels, but I think any spec would be an upgrade for me personally. The best specced and best overall car I’ve had was a Mondeo Titanium X. I’m sure the XF is superior in almost every way
exelero said:
Maybe I’m mistaken by don’t they all come with heated screen? I would’ve assumed with it being owned by Ford that time.
I knew the trim levels, but I think any spec would be an upgrade for me personally. The best specced and best overall car I’ve had was a Mondeo Titanium X. I’m sure the XF is superior in almost every way
It doesn't appear to have the button for it.I knew the trim levels, but I think any spec would be an upgrade for me personally. The best specced and best overall car I’ve had was a Mondeo Titanium X. I’m sure the XF is superior in almost every way
Whereas this one (just a random Premium Luxury of same age taken from Autotrader) does ... https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202409134...
You're looking at the bottom left buttons below the CD slot. That Luxury has 2 buttons (heated rear window, and set up blowers to clear windscreen), the random Premium Luxury has 3 buttons (heated rear window, heated front window and set up blowers to clear windscreen).
I've got one of these so some personal experience.
Mine is a 2.2D Luxury (so bottom of the range) on a 2015 - so the facelifted version (it has a heated screen).
I've owned it since about 40k miles, currently on 137k, and it is mainly used for mile munching up the motorways. Obviously I have the smaller engine (about 160ish bhp I think) but it performs that admirably and whilst no rocketship will happily cruise at high motorway speeds. I think the fact it is on small 17" wheels with big tyres goes a long way to keeping road noise down and comfort up (we also have a Tesla Model 3 Performance and I much prefer the older XF for smashing out miles). Handling wise I quite like it but its not really what its about for me.
I've had also zero maintenance issues, aside from a couple of windows regulators that can be fixed for about £30 with a repair kit (the wire snaps) and central locking motors (Volvo part). It gets a service once a year and that is it.
I do keep thinking about getting rid of it and upgrading but I've been offered about £3k part exchange against a £40k purchase. That gives an indication of what these cars are worth - therefore I've pretty much decided to run mine until it goes horribly wrong and then sell it spares & repairs/scrap it.
Overall I think they are quite undervalued when compared to the competition in the 3/5 series C/E class segment.
Mine is a 2.2D Luxury (so bottom of the range) on a 2015 - so the facelifted version (it has a heated screen).
I've owned it since about 40k miles, currently on 137k, and it is mainly used for mile munching up the motorways. Obviously I have the smaller engine (about 160ish bhp I think) but it performs that admirably and whilst no rocketship will happily cruise at high motorway speeds. I think the fact it is on small 17" wheels with big tyres goes a long way to keeping road noise down and comfort up (we also have a Tesla Model 3 Performance and I much prefer the older XF for smashing out miles). Handling wise I quite like it but its not really what its about for me.
I've had also zero maintenance issues, aside from a couple of windows regulators that can be fixed for about £30 with a repair kit (the wire snaps) and central locking motors (Volvo part). It gets a service once a year and that is it.
I do keep thinking about getting rid of it and upgrading but I've been offered about £3k part exchange against a £40k purchase. That gives an indication of what these cars are worth - therefore I've pretty much decided to run mine until it goes horribly wrong and then sell it spares & repairs/scrap it.
Overall I think they are quite undervalued when compared to the competition in the 3/5 series C/E class segment.
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