OG M2 vs Mustang GT
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Hi all
I've enjoyed being back in a Fiesta ST for a year or so, but by the end of this year (investments, earning more) I'll be in a position where I'd be able to afford something a bit special without breaking the bank. My first thought was a Mustang because my dad always loved American motorsports growing up and they look+sound fantastic.
But equally I like cars that are a bit sharper handling-wise and I wonder if a Mustang would feel a bit annoyingly vague pushing it down a B Road, and I realised an M2 is about the same money or slightly cheaper. Practicality is a wash as far as I can see although apparently the M2 has more usable rear seats. Performance wise I assume the M2 feels like a significantly quicker car because the Coyote is quite a peaky engine so the BMW will have a far bigger area under the power curve.
My inclination would be to believe the Mustang is a bit cheaper to service and fix but a bit worse on fuel, so not really any different in running costs either.
The key question is if the Coyote makes up for being a bit worse handling, or on the flip side the sharper handling of the M2 makes up for the engine disparity?
The other factor is that I would ideally like three pedals, and manual Mustangs are far easier to find than manual M2s
I've enjoyed being back in a Fiesta ST for a year or so, but by the end of this year (investments, earning more) I'll be in a position where I'd be able to afford something a bit special without breaking the bank. My first thought was a Mustang because my dad always loved American motorsports growing up and they look+sound fantastic.
But equally I like cars that are a bit sharper handling-wise and I wonder if a Mustang would feel a bit annoyingly vague pushing it down a B Road, and I realised an M2 is about the same money or slightly cheaper. Practicality is a wash as far as I can see although apparently the M2 has more usable rear seats. Performance wise I assume the M2 feels like a significantly quicker car because the Coyote is quite a peaky engine so the BMW will have a far bigger area under the power curve.
My inclination would be to believe the Mustang is a bit cheaper to service and fix but a bit worse on fuel, so not really any different in running costs either.
The key question is if the Coyote makes up for being a bit worse handling, or on the flip side the sharper handling of the M2 makes up for the engine disparity?
The other factor is that I would ideally like three pedals, and manual Mustangs are far easier to find than manual M2s
The Mustang isn't as sharp but it isn't meant to be, BMW manuals aren't that great no better or worse than the Ford unit, I wouldn't say the V8 is peaky it actually has a good spread of torque & bhp BUT compared to a turbocharged car it could feel lacking.
They're very different cars so I'd say test drive them as one will jump out at you as the one you want, also consider the M4.
They're very different cars so I'd say test drive them as one will jump out at you as the one you want, also consider the M4.
ZX10R NIN said:
The Mustang isn't as sharp but it isn't meant to be, BMW manuals aren't that great no better or worse than the Ford unit, I wouldn't say the V8 is peaky it actually has a good spread of torque & bhp BUT compared to a turbocharged car it could feel lacking.
They're very different cars so I'd say test drive them as one will jump out at you as the one you want, also consider the M4.
It will just come down to test driving to be fair! I'd consider an M4/M3 as well, the only reason I'd not mentioned it was that the ones around the 25k mark I've seen on autotrader seem a bit shagged compared to the other 2They're very different cars so I'd say test drive them as one will jump out at you as the one you want, also consider the M4.
nikaiyo2 said:
Have you been in a Mustang? I thought the interior was shoddy as anything compared to BMW, the one I looked at was a bit tired so that did not help but compared to a 7 year old 1 series it looked like it was 70 .
Also I think the tax is going to be £780 per year as of this April.
RFL is only £780 for Mustang GTs registered before April 2017Also I think the tax is going to be £780 per year as of this April.
Mustang owner here albeit a later model than the ones you're looking at. You really need to get a drive in one. I suspect it will handle better than you think but it won't be as sharp as an M2 or as well finished but if it "grabs" you you'll forgive those shortcomings. Not a perfect car by any stretch but a real appeal for some of us
SFTWend said:
I test drove both.
Mustang for the noise, cruising and maybe maintenance (providing the engine doesn't develop the tick of death). M2 for every other metric imo.
I think you'd choose the Mustang because you really want a Mustang. Nothing wrong with that, they are an appealing car.
That is a really good sum up I think. Mustang for the noise, cruising and maybe maintenance (providing the engine doesn't develop the tick of death). M2 for every other metric imo.
I think you'd choose the Mustang because you really want a Mustang. Nothing wrong with that, they are an appealing car.
nikaiyo2 said:
Saleen836 said:
RFL is only £780 for Mustang GTs registered before April 2017
Haha so after 2017 what is the rate for post 2017? That might put the GT back on my list! Just thought I'd add my thoughts as I recently got a Mustang GT and was considering an M2.
I had an M135i with th same engine so I can speak to some common elements.
The Mustang is a bit odd as it's pretty gutless until 3500 rpm then it goes bananas! I got the auto and initially thought it was transmission lag but it's actually that there is a very pronounced uptick and it pulls hard 3.5k-7k rpm.
It's very very different to the N55 which pulls hard from low down peters out around 6.5k. Personally this kind of power delivery is more to my taste as you feel that power at all times.
The Mustang also feels like a very big car (because it is!) and fairly crude compared to the F20 platform (I can only assume the M2 is even better).
The Mustang is very much a cruiser and the M2 more of a sports car.
I had an M135i with th same engine so I can speak to some common elements.
The Mustang is a bit odd as it's pretty gutless until 3500 rpm then it goes bananas! I got the auto and initially thought it was transmission lag but it's actually that there is a very pronounced uptick and it pulls hard 3.5k-7k rpm.
It's very very different to the N55 which pulls hard from low down peters out around 6.5k. Personally this kind of power delivery is more to my taste as you feel that power at all times.
The Mustang also feels like a very big car (because it is!) and fairly crude compared to the F20 platform (I can only assume the M2 is even better).
The Mustang is very much a cruiser and the M2 more of a sports car.
SFTWend said:
I test drove both.
Mustang for the noise, cruising and maybe maintenance (providing the engine doesn't develop the tick of death). M2 for every other metric imo.
I think you'd choose the Mustang because you really want a Mustang. Nothing wrong with that, they are an appealing car.
Mustang for me purely for having a V8 and manual 'box among a sea of EVs.Mustang for the noise, cruising and maybe maintenance (providing the engine doesn't develop the tick of death). M2 for every other metric imo.
I think you'd choose the Mustang because you really want a Mustang. Nothing wrong with that, they are an appealing car.
Not heard of the "tick of death" though - is there a known issue with these engines?
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