Help convincing my dad to get a CL63!
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Hello everyone! 
I may only be a teen who can't drive yet, but i have an extreme passion for cars (As does everyone else on this forum haha, this being my first post), and around 4 years ago I convinced my father to get an MK2 Audi TT as a weekend /"midlife crisis" car
Unfortunately, all good things come to an end, and my parents have made the decision to sell it due to a turbo/boost leak, making the car feel much less potent than it did before, with the 3-4k rpm turbo kick gone.
This (as it would with most people) left me devastated, however I understand their decision and we will have to say goodbye to it. I'll miss it alot, but it had its run.
SO! This leads me on to the title :
there most likely will be a replacement for this (Hopefully, fingers crossed 🤞🏼, along with the sale of my mother's beloved Yaris for some more driveway space), and as a merc fan, one of my dream cars is the almighty 6.2 V8 powered Mercedes CL63
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Currently the XK/XKR is another contender too, or
I absolutely adore this car, and my parents somewhat like the design of it too. but there is a large caveat in this, if not, quite a few:
1) Displacement: My parents don't really tend to lean towards large engines (especially a roaring 6.2 V8!
) , but after test driving the XK 5.0 facelift my dad does seem to love the instant kick from it, and the smoothness.
2) MPG : It's a figure we all dread, but in all fairness his CR-V Does around 25mpg, and the TT does 30 odd on a good day. From scouring other forums for info about this on the CL63, it doesn't even seem half bad, at around 29, which is on par with the TT) . Despite the fact they do the same, my parents think the fuel prices will be
2.5) To add on to that, I have tried to convince them that if they do get it, I will promise to take the bus to school in the morning and after-school instead of them picking me up (which is very kind of them)
3) Overall practicality: One thing they don't seem to understand is that the boot space in the CL is MASSIVE compared to the TT and the Yaris, and if ever we need to ferry/go out with family we can always use the CR-V, as that is for sure the car of choice compared to my mother's yaris, which we use for small errands/trips. + the 2 seats at the back are much more considerably larger than the TT.
Apart from these factors, everything else i've looked at seems fine
My parents know that I absolutely adore mercs, and practically all my model cars I collect are the german brand, But that leads me on to one thing that I hope some people from PH can help me:
CONVINCING.
Yes I know it sounds odd, but any little helps and if i can try tell them that it is a good car and it 100% will be rewarding to drive, and comfortable (seeming that it is the "coupe" version of the W221 S class) to be in.
Please do tell me if I should move this post somewhere else within the forum as this is my first post so I am trying to get to grips with it
Thanks so much, and I will keep you updated.
Watch this space!
I may only be a teen who can't drive yet, but i have an extreme passion for cars (As does everyone else on this forum haha, this being my first post), and around 4 years ago I convinced my father to get an MK2 Audi TT as a weekend /"midlife crisis" car
Unfortunately, all good things come to an end, and my parents have made the decision to sell it due to a turbo/boost leak, making the car feel much less potent than it did before, with the 3-4k rpm turbo kick gone.
This (as it would with most people) left me devastated, however I understand their decision and we will have to say goodbye to it. I'll miss it alot, but it had its run.
SO! This leads me on to the title :
there most likely will be a replacement for this (Hopefully, fingers crossed 🤞🏼, along with the sale of my mother's beloved Yaris for some more driveway space), and as a merc fan, one of my dream cars is the almighty 6.2 V8 powered Mercedes CL63
A
M
G.
Currently the XK/XKR is another contender too, or
I absolutely adore this car, and my parents somewhat like the design of it too. but there is a large caveat in this, if not, quite a few:
1) Displacement: My parents don't really tend to lean towards large engines (especially a roaring 6.2 V8!
) , but after test driving the XK 5.0 facelift my dad does seem to love the instant kick from it, and the smoothness.2) MPG : It's a figure we all dread, but in all fairness his CR-V Does around 25mpg, and the TT does 30 odd on a good day. From scouring other forums for info about this on the CL63, it doesn't even seem half bad, at around 29, which is on par with the TT) . Despite the fact they do the same, my parents think the fuel prices will be
2.5) To add on to that, I have tried to convince them that if they do get it, I will promise to take the bus to school in the morning and after-school instead of them picking me up (which is very kind of them)
3) Overall practicality: One thing they don't seem to understand is that the boot space in the CL is MASSIVE compared to the TT and the Yaris, and if ever we need to ferry/go out with family we can always use the CR-V, as that is for sure the car of choice compared to my mother's yaris, which we use for small errands/trips. + the 2 seats at the back are much more considerably larger than the TT.
Apart from these factors, everything else i've looked at seems fine
My parents know that I absolutely adore mercs, and practically all my model cars I collect are the german brand, But that leads me on to one thing that I hope some people from PH can help me:
CONVINCING.
Yes I know it sounds odd, but any little helps and if i can try tell them that it is a good car and it 100% will be rewarding to drive, and comfortable (seeming that it is the "coupe" version of the W221 S class) to be in.
Please do tell me if I should move this post somewhere else within the forum as this is my first post so I am trying to get to grips with it
Thanks so much, and I will keep you updated.
Watch this space!
Sorry about that, I forgot to add in this part here :
there most likely will be a replacement for this (Hopefully, fingers crossed 🤞🏼, along with the sale of my mother's beloved Yaris for some more driveway space), and as a merc fan, one of my dream cars is the almighty 6.2 V8 powered Mercedes CL63 AND THE JAGUAR XK/XKR is currently a contender for a replacement, or if not, it will just be the yaris and honda alone
there most likely will be a replacement for this (Hopefully, fingers crossed 🤞🏼, along with the sale of my mother's beloved Yaris for some more driveway space), and as a merc fan, one of my dream cars is the almighty 6.2 V8 powered Mercedes CL63 AND THE JAGUAR XK/XKR is currently a contender for a replacement, or if not, it will just be the yaris and honda alone
since we did buy it at quite high mileage (70k or so)ZubWithCars said:
Sorry about that, I forgot to add in this part here :
there most likely will be a replacement for this (Hopefully, fingers crossed 🤞🏼, along with the sale of my mother's beloved Yaris for some more driveway space), and as a merc fan, one of my dream cars is the almighty 6.2 V8 powered Mercedes CL63 AND THE JAGUAR XK/XKR is currently a contender for a replacement, or if not, it will just be the yaris and honda alone
That's great , Get a bit older and get some years driving then buy yourself a 6.2 L v8 CL63..... leave your poor dad alone and let him choose what he wants.there most likely will be a replacement for this (Hopefully, fingers crossed 🤞🏼, along with the sale of my mother's beloved Yaris for some more driveway space), and as a merc fan, one of my dream cars is the almighty 6.2 V8 powered Mercedes CL63 AND THE JAGUAR XK/XKR is currently a contender for a replacement, or if not, it will just be the yaris and honda alone
I have a friend with a CL63, amongst other cars, its lovely but not an easy or cheap car to own. It does MPG in the teens and he has had a fair few niggles.
This chap tends to buy interesting stuff, he isnt not short of cash, despite what he says sometimes. Even he gets a bit nervous about the bills it can throw up.
Its not a car to buy if you cant afford a five grand bill, its not a car to buy if 15/20 mpg is an issue, not a car to buy if £795 VED stings. They have the ABC suspension which can get scary, tyres are £200 a corner. Brake disks and pads are very expensive.
Its hard ending up with a car that you cant really afford to run, not saying thats the case but if every miles costs a quid or more to do, it limits where you can go and what else you can do, these are a Bentley competitor, maybe not quite as expensive to run but in the ball park.
This chap tends to buy interesting stuff, he isnt not short of cash, despite what he says sometimes. Even he gets a bit nervous about the bills it can throw up.
Its not a car to buy if you cant afford a five grand bill, its not a car to buy if 15/20 mpg is an issue, not a car to buy if £795 VED stings. They have the ABC suspension which can get scary, tyres are £200 a corner. Brake disks and pads are very expensive.
Its hard ending up with a car that you cant really afford to run, not saying thats the case but if every miles costs a quid or more to do, it limits where you can go and what else you can do, these are a Bentley competitor, maybe not quite as expensive to run but in the ball park.
J4CKO said:
I have a friend with a CL63, amongst other cars, its lovely but not an easy or cheap car to own. It does MPG in the teens and he has had a fair few niggles.
This chap tends to buy interesting stuff, he isnt not short of cash, despite what he says sometimes. Even he gets a bit nervous about the bills it can throw up.
Its not a car to buy if you cant afford a five grand bill, its not a car to buy if 15/20 mpg is an issue, not a car to buy if £795 VED stings. They have the ABC suspension which can get scary, tyres are £200 a corner. Brake disks and pads are very expensive.
Its hard ending up with a car that you cant really afford to run, not saying thats the case but if every miles costs a quid or more to do, it limits where you can go and what else you can do, these are a Bentley competitor, maybe not quite as expensive to run but in the ball park.
Thanks for actually giving a good response, the one we looked at has around 44k miles so hopefully the ABC should be ok, I appreciate the reply This chap tends to buy interesting stuff, he isnt not short of cash, despite what he says sometimes. Even he gets a bit nervous about the bills it can throw up.
Its not a car to buy if you cant afford a five grand bill, its not a car to buy if 15/20 mpg is an issue, not a car to buy if £795 VED stings. They have the ABC suspension which can get scary, tyres are £200 a corner. Brake disks and pads are very expensive.
Its hard ending up with a car that you cant really afford to run, not saying thats the case but if every miles costs a quid or more to do, it limits where you can go and what else you can do, these are a Bentley competitor, maybe not quite as expensive to run but in the ball park.
An XK is a good bet,and are cheap enough these days,Mercs are made of cheese so likely not cheap to run.Too many V8 Mercs get into the wrong hands and end up being burnout and doughnut toys,all you need is put new tyres on and disguise its past to the next potential buyer.
Had the same problem with my Dad many years ago,he had a sucessful business and could afford a decent motor.In the late 70's or early 80's he asked which should he buy as a toy, an Alfa Spider, a Porsche 911 or a Ferarri Dino.Of course I said the Dino,so he went and bought the Alfa which over a few years filled up with water and rotted away.He is 89 now and drives a Toyota Auris,there's no hope.
Dad's eh?
Had the same problem with my Dad many years ago,he had a sucessful business and could afford a decent motor.In the late 70's or early 80's he asked which should he buy as a toy, an Alfa Spider, a Porsche 911 or a Ferarri Dino.Of course I said the Dino,so he went and bought the Alfa which over a few years filled up with water and rotted away.He is 89 now and drives a Toyota Auris,there's no hope.
Dad's eh?
grumpynuts said:
Mercs are made of cheese so likely not cheap to run.Too many V8 Mercs get into the wrong hands and end up being burnout and doughnut toys,all you need is put new tyres on and disguise its past to the next potential buyer.
I'm surprised if anyone reading this will believe that. But if you are concerned just make sure you meet the previous owner and decide for yourself. You're not just buying a car, you're buying the previous owner. So if they're middle aged and have a nice house I'd be surprised if they can even do a doughnut. It's nice to convince someone to buy a car...especially when you don't have to pay the bills.
Bills on a CL63..well...you might get lucky and only have to pay for consumables for a few years...
Or you might get unlucky, take it to a specialist for a leak and come out with a £5,000 bill.
They are complex and expensive to fix.
The Jaguar XK X150 you mentioned is considerably less complex, a dinosaur compared to the Merc and easier to work on. In 4.2 form even more so. Just watch out for corrosion as they are aluminium.
Bills on a CL63..well...you might get lucky and only have to pay for consumables for a few years...
Or you might get unlucky, take it to a specialist for a leak and come out with a £5,000 bill.
They are complex and expensive to fix.
The Jaguar XK X150 you mentioned is considerably less complex, a dinosaur compared to the Merc and easier to work on. In 4.2 form even more so. Just watch out for corrosion as they are aluminium.
Edited by MattsCar on Sunday 22 June 21:08
The CL63 is a great car but they're nit the greatest on fuel but that wall of low down torque is irresistible.
Here's the thing I think that your dad would be better off with the 4.7t CL500 & here's why.
Your dad seems to just want a nice car tht has a nice amount of torque & is a nice place to be which the CL is.
It doesn't suffer the AMG tax for consumables.
It's still bloody (especially after a remap that net you nigh on AMG power) fast.
Real word fuel 22-24mpg around town 30-35mpg on a run.
CL500:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202408313...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202502199...
Here's the thing I think that your dad would be better off with the 4.7t CL500 & here's why.
Your dad seems to just want a nice car tht has a nice amount of torque & is a nice place to be which the CL is.
It doesn't suffer the AMG tax for consumables.
It's still bloody (especially after a remap that net you nigh on AMG power) fast.
Real word fuel 22-24mpg around town 30-35mpg on a run.
CL500:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202408313...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202502199...
J4CKO said:
I have a friend with a CL63, amongst other cars, its lovely but not an easy or cheap car to own. It does MPG in the teens and he has had a fair few niggles.
This chap tends to buy interesting stuff, he isnt not short of cash, despite what he says sometimes. Even he gets a bit nervous about the bills it can throw up.
Its not a car to buy if you cant afford a five grand bill, its not a car to buy if 15/20 mpg is an issue, not a car to buy if £795 VED stings. They have the ABC suspension which can get scary, tyres are £200 a corner. Brake disks and pads are very expensive.
Its hard ending up with a car that you cant really afford to run, not saying thats the case but if every miles costs a quid or more to do, it limits where you can go and what else you can do, these are a Bentley competitor, maybe not quite as expensive to run but in the ball park.
I feel for the OP. I used to be just like him but yeah as you get older you really see how expensive these cars can be and it is eye watering and for many can be financially dangerous. It’s not worth it for most. This chap tends to buy interesting stuff, he isnt not short of cash, despite what he says sometimes. Even he gets a bit nervous about the bills it can throw up.
Its not a car to buy if you cant afford a five grand bill, its not a car to buy if 15/20 mpg is an issue, not a car to buy if £795 VED stings. They have the ABC suspension which can get scary, tyres are £200 a corner. Brake disks and pads are very expensive.
Its hard ending up with a car that you cant really afford to run, not saying thats the case but if every miles costs a quid or more to do, it limits where you can go and what else you can do, these are a Bentley competitor, maybe not quite as expensive to run but in the ball park.
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