Hyundai dealer, is this normal?
Hyundai dealer, is this normal?
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Rogerout

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134 posts

94 months

Tuesday 23rd September
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Hi guys,

Went to see a car locally to me , a Hyundai dealership. Car was an electric Ioniq, car all very nice and perfectly fine.

Now it gets to the potential deal part. Salesman goes outside to take a look at my car to trade in ( astra diesel, 170 k on the clock) . Takes lots of photos and really checks all the bodywork. We then go back inside and he goes into his managers office , whilst I just browse around the showroom.

After 10 minutes said salesman comes back out his office. We can offer you just £1OO for your car to trade in..

Me- what? £100 for a car that is road worthy?, I get it's an older car has 170 k on the clock and is diesel but seriously?.

Salesman explains that they only can auction my car, and £100 is the best they will give me to trade in.

Then I look at the quote and the car comes with just 90 days warranty. I then question why they don't give a standard 12 months warranty, apparently they have partnered up with Cinch, and 90 days is the standard warranty.

But if i wanted a 90 day warranty with Cinch, I would buy from them , not a main dealer! Salesman stated that the car was just over five years old so they didn't offer 12 months warranty.

I then asked if they could come down on price slightly if I payed cash..'no, our cars are priced to sell sir, we cant negotiate on price'

I then even asked if I could have a deal, such as maybe an extended warranty, 12 months even or a years servicing. Again, the dealership wouldn't budge an inch. On anything.

So off I went after spending 90 minutes at a showroom, no deal.

Is this standard practice for Hyundai dealers? No movement on price at all. No 12 months warranty for cars over five years old. No goodwill gesture such as a free service, or extended warranty. And to offer £ 100 for a working car, that isn't written off. Even a scrap dealer would pay more. And its a 2013 plate too
Is this normal for Hyundai?

SydneyBridge

10,384 posts

175 months

Tuesday 23rd September
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I would imagine it is normal if you are buying a popular car and trying to px something unpopular

Ham_and_Jam

3,163 posts

114 months

Tuesday 23rd September
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OP, how much can you get for your 170k Astra diesel? If it s more, sell it that way.

On the topic of bartering, it does seem to be a old school way of doing things.

I purchased a new car on behalf of my daughter a couple of years ago. It was a very good price, but absolutely no discount or goodwill freebies.

Basically they could have marked it up another £500-£1000 and discounted back, but once I looked at the deal in the cold light of day I was more than happy with it.


UK_Scat_Pack

308 posts

173 months

Tuesday 23rd September
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I saved about £5k off my new Hyundai. And I bartered for some extras etc. they even gave me a free gift!
No issue with the Hyundai dealer I dealt with at all.

wyson

3,791 posts

121 months

Tuesday 23rd September
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Sounds like they’ve met their quota’s, or that cars just come in and is on fresh financing and they don’t need to deal.

Might just be bad timing.


Jag_NE

3,266 posts

117 months

Tuesday 23rd September
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i think you are overthinking it.

1 - your trade in is potentially a break even to them as by the time they deduct the costs for handling it, its just not making any money.

2 - you should be able to research if the screen price of the new car is fair. If it is, pay it. If not, buy the cheaper one from elsewhere.

Mikebentley

7,643 posts

157 months

Tuesday 23rd September
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Isn’t a 5 yr old Ionia 5 still in warranty?

anyoldcardave

996 posts

84 months

Tuesday 23rd September
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Quite normal for dealers not to offer a discount these days, unless as has been pointed out quotas are down and they will want to get deals done, and they do want a profit on every part ex, if you had accepted 100 it probably would not have gone to auction, but deemed scrap and sold to a trader who takes everything scrap, for a profit to them of course. Every car needs to show a profit.

Chris Peacock

3,339 posts

151 months

Tuesday 23rd September
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Forget the trade in. A 12 year old 170k car is worthless to a dealer, more of a hassle to them than anything. Sell it privately.

Is the Ioniq priced competitively? Is so, why would you get a discount on it?

carlove

7,809 posts

184 months

Tuesday 23rd September
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Mikebentley said:
Isn t a 5 yr old Ionia 5 still in warranty?
Would be just out of warranty as "just over 5 years old"

This one's just over 5 at a Hyundai dealer that's being advertised with a 12 month warranty.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202504040...

In fact this 17 plate I20 at the dealer has a 12 month warranty
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202507084...

I'm not sure about Hyundai dealers, but it might be a not so great dealer, more than Hyundai as a whole.

wyson

3,791 posts

121 months

Tuesday 23rd September
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Also, seems to be a while since you brought a car? Dealers make money on the financing. It is rarely an advantage to offer cash these days, you will simply be taking finance commission away from them.

ninepoint2

3,737 posts

177 months

Tuesday 23rd September
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wyson said:
Also, seems to be a while since you brought a car? Dealers make money on the financing. It is rarely an advantage to offer cash these days, you will simply be taking finance commission away from them.
Not to mention all the other crap they add to the final invoice that nobody needs to buy, but again they make decent commision on, if you do eventualy buy ensure all of that nonsense is taken off before you agree.

Sebring440

2,839 posts

113 months

Tuesday 23rd September
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wyson said:
Also, seems to be a while since you brought a car? Dealers make money on the financing. It is rarely an advantage to offer cash these days, you will simply be taking finance commission away from them.
This ^^^^

The OP obviously hasn't dealt with main dealers recently, if at all.

Cash? NO thanks. stty old trade-in? NO thanks.

wyson

3,791 posts

121 months

Tuesday 23rd September
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Sebring440 said:
wyson said:
Also, seems to be a while since you brought a car? Dealers make money on the financing. It is rarely an advantage to offer cash these days, you will simply be taking finance commission away from them.
This ^^^^

The OP obviously hasn't dealt with main dealers recently, if at all.

Cash? NO thanks. stty old trade-in? NO thanks.
NGL, that’s exactly what I thought. They were secretly hoping the OP would go away.

@OP, have a read of the moneysavingexpert guide on getting the best deal on a car. They talk about a lot of the points people are making in this thread.

Edited by wyson on Tuesday 23 September 22:59

SteBrown91

2,878 posts

146 months

Tuesday 23rd September
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If it’s partnering with cinch I assume it’s Marshall group and I’m guessing the car doesn’t meet the approved used standard so is not offered with the Hyundai warranty.

Find another.

Clad-Hach

100 posts

5 months

Tuesday 23rd September
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Oh I like a good haggle with car dealers...they are either all full of themselves or have a spiel of pre-programmed sales pish and when you interfere it throws them off kilter.

One I like to do is stand at the back of the car and ask how much it is (even better if there is a price on the windshield) when they say the price act all shocked and say " I can get a good one for that " and wait for the reaction.

All good fun.

HTP99

24,227 posts

157 months

Tuesday 23rd September
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Clad-Hach said:
Oh I like a good haggle with car dealers...they are either all full of themselves or have a spiel of pre-programmed sales pish and when you interfere it throws them off kilter.

One I like to do is stand at the back of the car and ask how much it is (even better if there is a price on the windshield) when they say the price act all shocked and say " I can get a good one for that " and wait for the reaction.

All good fun.
I'd reply, "buy the good one then"

loskie

6,419 posts

137 months

Tuesday 23rd September
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I would have thought your 170k mile astra would be worth more as scrap.

If it has MOT advertise it for £495 on facebook if you can be arsed with the hassle.

Remember your consumer rights may trump a crappy warranty.

Rogerout

Original Poster:

134 posts

94 months

Wednesday 24th September
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Mikebentley said:
Isn t a 5 yr old Ionia 5 still in warranty?
Just out by two months-but the battery is covered by Hyundai until 8 years (or maybe 100k miles)

Even still other expensive things could go wrong



Edited by Rogerout on Wednesday 24th September 03:48

Rogerout

Original Poster:

134 posts

94 months

Wednesday 24th September
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But surely you would expect a main dealer would offer more than 3 months warranty?