Buying a lhd 911 in Italy and driving it back to England

[cornish_biker]

Has anyone here ever brought a car back over like this?

Or is there a better way without shelling out 1000s to a company to bring it in for me

I know I'll still have to register it and deal with nova and pay import duties

[Richard-390a0]

I think there's more than one readers cars thread that starts like this if you have a hunt around the site a bit.

[Mabozza]

Interested to know - why go to italy for a 911? is this a very special 911 or cheaper than equivalent available 911's in the UK?

[Dogwatch]

I believe they used to drive Ferraris up from Maranello in Ronnie Hoare's day.

[SFTWend]

Road trip from Italy sounds perfect to me.

[ZX10R NIN]

It's very simple, you drive it back, within two weeks you'll need to fill out a NOVA pay any duty & get it MOT'd.

That's pretty much it.

[larrylamb11]

Your challenge will be getting it out of Italy and navigating the local registration / export laws......

[cayman-black]

who will stop him leaving Italy Then? There are no border controls. As ZX says!

[InformationSuperHighway]

Sounds like a fantastic life experience.

Do it!

[tobinen]

I've never done it but I would just drive it back and sort out the paperwork/taxes here. As above, who's to stop you leaving the country in it?

[anonymous-user]

JackP I think from on here, on buying and driving a Fiat 500 in Italy, you'll see that the buying was not that easy.

1000 miles in a classic Fiat 500 - Buying Sofia - Episode 1


https://youtu.be/V1w6qBuJj3s

[James P]

Depending on who you encounter on the way, there could be some paperwork issues the Italians are so fond of.

Once in your name it will need to be taxed to driven on the road which isn’t as quick/ easy as the UK. Plus will you insurer cover an Italian registered car?

Also you’re not supposed to drive an Italian registered car on a non-Italian licence. I was stopped before I exchanged my licence and, other than a small fine for an expitred not, nothing more came of it.

Good luck

[Sausage dog and mustard]

Sounds like an awesome road trip.. go for it.

As others have said, you will need to figure out whether to tax insure in Italy, or UK on the VIN.

No idea how easy it is gor a non resident to insure an Italian vehicle in Italy.. "should " be possible. (Think 2nd home owners either cars etc) but you'd need an address to use..

Or just insure with UK insurer on the VIN

Edited by Sausage dog and mustard on Saturday 25th October 10:55

[Sausage dog and mustard]

Which "end" of Italy are you starting from? Ie are you 2 or 12 hours drive from the French/Swiss/Austrian border..

NB.. i would not try to drive through Switzerland unless your paperwork/reg docs etc are 100% in order and consistent.

[Rushjob]

James P said:

Also you re not supposed to drive an Italian registered car on a non-Italian licence. I was stopped before I exchanged my licence and, other than a small fine for an expitred not, nothing more came of it.

Good luck

Hire cars???
EU licences???
Sorry I think your memory may be a little messed up, all that you need to drive an Italian car in Italy is a valid driving licence from whichever country, to have permission of the owner of the car and to be covered soon the insurance.
Same with motorcycles, been there, done that.
The only thing I can think of even close to what you typed is driving a non Italian registered car in Italy whilst being an Italian resident.

Edited by Rushjob on Sunday 26th October 11:17

[paul_c123]

ZX10R NIN said:

It's very simple, you drive it back, within two weeks you'll need to fill out a NOVA pay any duty & get it MOT'd.

That's pretty much it.

What about the issue of driving an Italian registered car (or possibly one marked for export in the Italian car registration system) on a UK licence, by a UK resident? Is there a time-limited exemption, for example?

ETA Found this info:

Italian export plates are temporary plates, marked with "EE," used for vehicles being driven out of Italy. They are issued for a maximum of 60 days and allow the vehicle to legally travel to its destination country for export. You must apply at a "Ufficio Motorizzazione Civile" (Motor Vehicles Office) and provide several documents, such as proof of payment, a certificate of conformity, and the owner's identification.
How to get Italian export plates
Locate a Motor Vehicles Office: You must apply at a "Ufficio Motorizzazione Civile".
Gather necessary documents: The exact requirements vary depending on whether the vehicle is new or used, but generally include:
A completed application form
Payment receipts for the required fees
A declaration of conformity (for new cars) or a certificate of ownership (for used cars)
Authorization for export
A request for temporary plates
A copy of the owner's passport or identity card
A copy of the dealership's legal representative's identity card (for new cars)
Submit your application: You will submit your application and documents at the office to receive the plates.
Pay the fees: Fees are required for the plates and can vary. For example, a standard fee was approximately $23.62 in 2016, with an additional fast-track option.
Receive the plates: The plates are issued promptly, but the exact timeframe can vary.
Key things to know
Validity: The plates are valid for a maximum of 60 days.
Purpose: They are specifically for vehicles that are being exported and are not valid for cross-border travel outside of your destination.
Returning the plates: Once you have your permanent registration, you should return the temporary export plates to the appropriate authorities.
Complexity: The process can be complicated, so many people hire agents or use specialized companies to handle the paperwork for them, according to www.kroschke.it and Facebook users.

Edited by paul_c123 on Saturday 25th October 13:11

[cornish_biker]

Thanks for the responses.

Do you guys know if the guys in border control in Dover will care about a British passport holder driving a car with foreign EU plates? (even if they are export plates)

[anyoldcardave]

cornish_biker said:

Thanks for the responses.

Do you guys know if the guys in border control in Dover will care about a British passport holder driving a car with foreign EU plates? (even if they are export plates)

I would have though export plates would make it less likely they will hassle you, should be obvious what is going on ?

It does not have to cost thousands to have a car transported through Europe either. I arranged an auction buy to go to Athens for a friend out there, and have shipped cars and a Transit from there for less than 2k, 1500 for a Fiat 128 on a groupage truck.

The auction car went with an Essex company I had not used before, Twin wheel logistics, who handled the import duties and all. I could not have done it cheaper on my own truck coming back empty.

I have driven Irish registered cars back post brexit, no hassle at all at ports .

[Palmela]

There's a poster on here that runs Lizard Logistics whose business is international car transportation. It could be cheaper than you think. Might be worth a search for him (no connection, but a satisfied customer).

[anyoldcardave]

Palmela said:

There's a poster on here that runs Lizard Logistics whose business is international car transportation. It could be cheaper than you think. Might be worth a search for him (no connection, but a satisfied customer).

I do not think I can post numbers on here, but I have the number of a UK based Romanian that has been doing this for all the years I have known him, they move the supercar circus around Europe as well as Disabled conversions out of Scotland, a backload will be welcome I would have thought.

Anyone brave enough to have an SF90 on the truck and an Aventedor on the trailer setting off for the South Of France can be trusted to get a 911 home lol.