The Highlands and the ´right´car
The Highlands and the ´right´car
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PotHoleHater

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So, we´ve bought a home in the highlands. It´s remote (on the NC500!), with loads of single track roads on the way there, and all around. Two lane roads are still available, but not on my doorstep. Thankfully all the roads wear tarmac these days, and are not gravelled!

It has been a while since we had a car for weekend blasts/fun, and the UK is truly blessed with affordable motors, no matter what the flavour, so I am caught between many makes and models. The issue is, so many are just massive these days. Just look how bloated the 911 has become, especially since the 964/993.

What would the PH collective advise as to a manual cabrio or coupe? I am really after some potentially left field ideas, and it would be great if you have driven the NC500, too. In the past I had a Crendon 427SC AC Cobra replica, various old school BMW´s and 4wd Jap rockets (which leave me cold these days). I really love driver involvement and a lack of electronic assistants.

Budget is circa £80k. I am happy to spend considerably less, of course.

Please, fire your suggestions at me. I´d really appreciate it.

Cheers,

PHH

Sway

33,103 posts

214 months

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Nomad!

Advantage of having the slightly higher seating position for better visibility.

brillomaster

1,611 posts

190 months

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Can you get an old 911 for £80k? Back when they were narrow and air cooled?

Leggerly

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6 months

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I live just off the NC 500 Ring Road too. I have an Audi A6 Allroad for daily use and KTM 625 for when the weather is good. Good luck with whatever you choose. The right car for these roads is something with plenty of side wall rubber and good ground clearance. It also helps if you don't really care what it looks like as long as it's fun to sit in or on. thumbup

uktrailmonster

8,534 posts

220 months

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brillomaster said:
Can you get an old 911 for £80k? Back when they were narrow and air cooled?
You could, but I wouldn’t in those conditions. Both cabin heating and cooling are st!

Sixpackpert

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234 months

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Leggerly said:
I live just off the NC 500 Ring Road too. I have an Audi A6 Allroad for daily use and KTM 625 for when the weather is good. Good luck with whatever you choose. The right car for these roads is something with plenty of side wall rubber and good ground clearance. It also helps if you don't really care what it looks like as long as it's fun to sit in or on. thumbup
I would agree. Having stayed in and around Applecross/Shieldaig and the surrounding area you want something that you can cram into the passing places easily and not worry about damaging wheels or tyres. Also something that is good in the winter months because during the summer any hoon is likely to be rather stop start negotiating all the motorhomes etc.

Lovely area.




miniman

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We need Steve’s input!

biggbn

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PotHoleHater said:
So, we´ve bought a home in the highlands. It´s remote (on the NC500!), with loads of single track roads on the way there, and all around. Two lane roads are still available, but not on my doorstep. Thankfully all the roads wear tarmac these days, and are not gravelled!

It has been a while since we had a car for weekend blasts/fun, and the UK is truly blessed with affordable motors, no matter what the flavour, so I am caught between many makes and models. The issue is, so many are just massive these days. Just look how bloated the 911 has become, especially since the 964/993.

What would the PH collective advise as to a manual cabrio or coupe? I am really after some potentially left field ideas, and it would be great if you have driven the NC500, too. In the past I had a Crendon 427SC AC Cobra replica, various old school BMW´s and 4wd Jap rockets (which leave me cold these days). I really love driver involvement and a lack of electronic assistants.

Budget is circa £80k. I am happy to spend considerably less, of course.

Please, fire your suggestions at me. I´d really appreciate it.

Cheers,

PHH
Ripple bonnet 2cv... smile

Letstryadifferentcareveryyear

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54 months

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PotHoleHater said:
The issue is, so many are just massive these days. Just look how bloated the 911 has become, especially since the 964/993.


PHH
Porsche 993 - width 1796mm, widebody variant 1852mm,
Porsche 992 - width 1852mm

A whopping 60mm extra at worst, its all an optical illusion, the middle of the car if you measure door to door has got wider but the widest part of the car over the rear arches hasn't really changed.

So just go ahead with a 992, a Dakar sounds like exactly what you are looking for with a bit of budget creep.

To stay in budget try a Boxster with the smallest wheels you can get.


Edited by Letstryadifferentcareveryyear on Wednesday 17th December 20:43

Overall D

425 posts

182 months

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Good points on the ground clearance and meaty tyres above. It's a shame you've went off 4WD Japanese cars as an Evo or Sti with group N4 gravel suspension spring to mind - loads of suspension travel and some Braid/Speedline wheels with lots of sidewall. Well, you've asked for leftfield hehe If Japanese 4WD doesn't suit then something older and RWD but still rally inspired, like a restomod Escort?

PotHoleHater

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Letstryadifferentcareveryyear said:
PotHoleHater said:
The issue is, so many are just massive these days. Just look how bloated the 911 has become, especially since the 964/993.


PHH
Porsche 993 - width 1796mm, widebody variant 1852mm,
Porsche 992 - width 1852mm

A whopping 60mm extra at worst, its all an optical illusion, the middle of the car if you measure door to door has got wider but the widest part of the car over the rear arches hasn't really changed.

So just go ahead with a 992, a Dakar sounds like exactly what you are looking for with a bit of budget creep.

To stay in budget try a Boxster with the smallest wheels you can get.


Edited by Letstryadifferentcareveryyear on Wednesday 17th December 20:43
I don´t know where you´re getting those numbers from...1735mm for the 993 vs 1852mm 992, both base model. Anyhoooo, the 964 is 1650mm, which is more my bag and point of reference (at least in my head!).

PotHoleHater

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Sway said:
Nomad!

Advantage of having the slightly higher seating position for better visibility.
Oh, I get you!

Buuuut, the weather! lol. I don´t melt in the rain, but a tad more protection would be nice. Still, you never know!

PotHoleHater

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Leggerly said:
I live just off the NC 500 Ring Road too. I have an Audi A6 Allroad for daily use and KTM 625 for when the weather is good. Good luck with whatever you choose. The right car for these roads is something with plenty of side wall rubber and good ground clearance. It also helps if you don't really care what it looks like as long as it's fun to sit in or on. thumbup
Hey, neighbour!

Sidewalls are important, for sure. I can´t imagine me having anything with a wheel size of over 18" for starters. More likely it´ll be 16 or 17. We will probably go back to an XC70 for a daily as our last one was just superb. The Audi equivalent has always interested me, too, however. Is is proper Quattro, or a Haldex unit like the Volvo?

PotHoleHater

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biggbn said:
Ripple bonnet 2cv... smile
Cute, yes. But no. Just no. Unless my wife sees your suggestion...

normalbloke

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239 months

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Highlands? It’d be a Yeti on 15” steels. Or a Brabus Unimog that has the capability of driving right over or straight through a campervan or tent box laying in the road…

Krikkit

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201 months

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Sway said:
Nomad!

Advantage of having the slightly higher seating position for better visibility.
This would be a great choice if you've got inside storage.

That or a Caterham on 15" wheels - supremely narrow to fit into passing places etc and you can move about in a lane to avoid the worst bits of road damage.

Chris_i8

2,313 posts

213 months

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Nomad was my first thought also...but others with a roof -

A110?
V12 Vantage?
NSX?..slight budget creep.
570S?
California?....Ferrari not VW!
Emira?
F-type R?

Om

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98 months

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How about a 997.2 Cayman or Boxster. Well inside budget and you could comfortably stretch to an R or Spyder.

Ideally if you can get a set of 18" or even better 17" wheels, they are light-ish, compact, ride and handle well and have good visibility. Size is more akin to the classic air-cooled 911s. Plenty of space and comfy enough on longer runs,

Not in the Highlands but here in N Wales the size makes it ideal for the narrow lanes and not so expensive that you would be too precious about pulling in to tight spots.

PotHoleHater

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normalbloke said:
Highlands? It d be a Yeti on 15 steels. Or a Brabus Unimog that has the capability of driving right over or straight through a campervan or tent box laying in the road
bowclap I didn´t know Brabus had played with a Unimog! Still, a Mog would be on the list for winter, but I like the old school versions.

uktrailmonster

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If I had to deal with many single track roads then I would want something with some off-road capability and not too big. Porsche Macan maybe, with the most practical wheel option.