Higher Performance / more Driver Focused C43 replacement?
Higher Performance / more Driver Focused C43 replacement?
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Deep Thought

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38,620 posts

219 months

Yesterday (18:45)
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Ok, so my wife has a Tesla Model 3 ordered up on Salary Sacrifice, which being a four door saloon and being silly cheap to run, will become our daily driver.

Shes keeping her Z4 as her weekend / fun car, but my C43 saloon will be pretty much superfluous.

Options range from selling it and -

=> put the money back in to savings (the most sensible idea but the most boring also).

=> buy a fun cheapish runabout (could be fun. Lots of down the money cheaper stuff about that arent a big commitment)

=> buy something a bit more heavy duty, bearing in mind it doesnt need to be a daily.

Leaning towards option 3 at the minute.

Pre-reqs would be,

=> i might want to move the car on in a years time and i dont want to blow my brains out on depreciation, so something that'll hold its value well would be key.

=> i currently dont have garage space for something that really should be garaged - its going to be something that sits out all of the time. This would probably rule out things like an E46 M3 or a Z4M as they'd be better kept dry given age.

=> Budget.... probably up to £25K. £30K at a push. Gut feeling is spending £50K on a car would result in the risk of notable depreciation and previous experience tells me that once you break £25K to £30K ish your number of prospective buyers drops off notably.

Candidates i've come up with -

Late model E92 M3. Probably a 2012 / 2013 car.

BMW M5. The later V8 type, not the V10.

M2 OG. Had one before, loved it, slight fear i'd be going back over old ground and theres other cars out there i should try.

M2 Comp. Not wholly feeling the love. Doesnt sound as good as the OG. Found the OG to be more than quick enough for public roads. But one may be an option.

Mercedes C63. Expensive to buy, glorious engine, but likely would be a saloon variant which i dont really need.

Cross country fun....

Yaris GRY. We live within a few miles of a Toyota main dealer. 7 year warranty. A lot of FUN.

GR86. We live within a few miles of a Toyota main dealer. 7 year warranty. A lot of FUN.

https://www.usedcarsni.com/2023-Toyota-GR-86-2-4-B...

Any comments / thoughts on any of the above? Specifically fun factor, driving pleasure, residual values being strong?

Anything i should also be looking at?



Edited by Deep Thought on Monday 16th February 19:06

lee1610

87 posts

235 months

Yesterday (19:36)
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I’m looking at spending 25k on a weekend toy again.

E92 m3 and og m2 are on the list. I have had an m2 comp before, great cars.

I’m a bit of a French hot hatch nut so the 300 trophy is also on my list, had a couple before and love them.

Not really sure what else to consider.

Latifisnc

1,408 posts

114 months

Yesterday (20:01)
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Cayman or Evora maybe?

Deep Thought

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Yesterday (21:53)
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Latifisnc said:
Cayman or Evora maybe?
Cayman would be a good call actually. 718 2.5T maybe?

Would be top of the budget but might be worth it.

I've seen the one locally, although red wouldnt do it for me in them.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202601169...


Deep Thought

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Yesterday (21:55)
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lee1610 said:
I m looking at spending 25k on a weekend toy again.

E92 m3 and og m2 are on the list. I have had an m2 comp before, great cars.

I m a bit of a French hot hatch nut so the 300 trophy is also on my list, had a couple before and love them.

Not really sure what else to consider.
Whats your thoughts on an M4?

Theres been a couple of completely standard non Comps have come up near to me and i do keep clicking back to them.

This is one of them. I liked the relative simplicity of the looks of this.

https://www.usedcarsni.com/2016-BMW-M4-3-0-Biturbo...

macron

12,655 posts

188 months

M4 cab before the weather improves.

Focus RS.

The Yaris is competent but dull in comparison to these or the Cayman.

Renault lovely but a depreciation risk, GR86 a bit flat compared to your Merc.

Wildcard,harder to shift maybe, Merc SL. Now that's an event.

Belle427

11,203 posts

255 months

Maybe M3 territory too, don`t see many on the roads really.

Jamescrs

5,820 posts

87 months

I wouldn’t go for an M5, at your budget you will be looking at an F10 which have some significant reliability issues around the engine which can kill itself. Your budget won’t stretch to the much more desirable F90.

Hammy98

891 posts

114 months

Similar position to yourself at the moment.

Was looking at e92s, M2s and M4s - but much like you with the M2 I've had an M4 before so inclined to try something else.
My issue is they offer a lot more over an OG M2 feature-wise as well as having a much nicer interior and more usable space.

Would love an e92 but the road tax is sky high and I suspect I'd be wanting to a spend a bit to get it to my liking, namely upgrading the brakes. M4 was spot on as standard and all the car I'd ever need.

Deep Thought

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macron said:
M4 cab before the weather improves.

Focus RS.

The Yaris is competent but dull in comparison to these or the Cayman.

Renault lovely but a depreciation risk, GR86 a bit flat compared to your Merc.

Wildcard,harder to shift maybe, Merc SL. Now that's an event.
Not a fan of the M4 cab (or four seater cabs generally) and wife has the Z4 anyway for that wind in the hair vibe. wobble

Yes, id thought of the Focus RS. Could be an option. They definitely seem to hold their money. Will do my homework on those.

Yes, Renault RS is desperately hard to resell in NI. I dont know why. They dont seem to catch car buyers imagination.

Must take a drive in a GR86 but yes wouldnt be in the same league power wise as the others.

SL.... i'd steered away from those with wife keeping the Z4., but maybe should revisit.

Deep Thought

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Belle427 said:
Maybe M3 territory too, don`t see many on the roads really.
Later four door M3? They seem very pricey. I dont need a four door, so that would take me back to the M4 and save £,£££s.

Deep Thought

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Jamescrs said:
I wouldn t go for an M5, at your budget you will be looking at an F10 which have some significant reliability issues around the engine which can kill itself. Your budget won t stretch to the much more desirable F90.
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Noted! smile

Deep Thought

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Hammy98 said:
Similar position to yourself at the moment.

Was looking at e92s, M2s and M4s - but much like you with the M2 I've had an M4 before so inclined to try something else.
My issue is they offer a lot more over an OG M2 feature-wise as well as having a much nicer interior and more usable space.

Would love an e92 but the road tax is sky high and I suspect I'd be wanting to a spend a bit to get it to my liking, namely upgrading the brakes. M4 was spot on as standard and all the car I'd ever need.
I might look at the M4s further. Good point RE: the features and interior being a nicer place.

And agreed RE: the M3 V8. It feels like a car i would be tempted to tweak - especially things like CSL wheels, carbon interior bits, etc. All gets expensive very quickly.

The tax could get tiresome too.

NDA

24,558 posts

247 months

I've been delighted with my (new to me) 911 C4S. Definitely a driver focussed car and can easily be used as a daily driver.

My search terms are still live on Autotrader and it looks like there's very little depreciation too - not something I'm too bothered about, but something you mentioned.

Josemartinez

199 posts

12 months

For 30kish, I'd be looking at an F Type or a Guilia Quadrifoglio.

Not sure what they are like depreciation wise or availability in NI but I think they both look stunning if you get the right spec.