Small day van engine choices
Discussion
Hi All,
Looking for some advice on small day van options such as Berlingo, Rifter and Combo Life.
The ones I’m looking at all have either 1.2 petrol or 1.5 diesel engines, and obviously all these vans are a slight variation of the same thing. Looking at cars from 2018 up to 2021 (ish).
The 1.2 petrol suffers the wet belt issue. The 1.5 diesels seem to suffer from a cam chain issue.
The internet is full of horror stories, but are both these issues as bad as they sound.
Should these engines be avoided completely, or is it a case of looking for a solid service history and then hoping for the best!?
Any guidance much appreciated.
Cheers
Looking for some advice on small day van options such as Berlingo, Rifter and Combo Life.
The ones I’m looking at all have either 1.2 petrol or 1.5 diesel engines, and obviously all these vans are a slight variation of the same thing. Looking at cars from 2018 up to 2021 (ish).
The 1.2 petrol suffers the wet belt issue. The 1.5 diesels seem to suffer from a cam chain issue.
The internet is full of horror stories, but are both these issues as bad as they sound.
Should these engines be avoided completely, or is it a case of looking for a solid service history and then hoping for the best!?
Any guidance much appreciated.
Cheers
the 1.5d is the better engine, the dealerships are all aware of the chain issues and will check them at services.
I believe that Stellantis did an upgrade to the chain from 7mm to 8mm which was also a retrofit?
https://www.lymmengineparts.co.uk/toyota-proace-ca...
QUOTED FROM ABOVE:
In the earlier versions of the PSA DV5RC engine, there was an issue with the camshaft chain related to its width. Initially, the camshaft chain had a width of 7mm, which posed some durability and reliability concerns.
The 7mm width of the camshaft chain led to premature wear and elongation over time. This wear caused the chain to stretch or wear out faster than expected, which could result in timing issues within the engine. Such wear could cause the chain to jump teeth or lose synchronization with the camshaft, potentially causing significant engine damage, like bent valves or piston damage due to incorrect timing.
To tackle this problem and improve the engine's reliability, PSA Group later modified the camshaft chain by increasing its width from 7mm to 8mm. This change effectively increased the chain's width, making it more robust and less susceptible to premature wear and elongation. The upgraded 8mm width of the camshaft chain was better equipped to withstand the stresses of engine operation over time.
The modification aimed to enhance the durability and longevity of the camshaft chain, ensuring proper timing and reducing the likelihood of engine failures associated with issues related to the width of the chain in the PSA DV5RC engine
I believe that Stellantis did an upgrade to the chain from 7mm to 8mm which was also a retrofit?
https://www.lymmengineparts.co.uk/toyota-proace-ca...
QUOTED FROM ABOVE:
In the earlier versions of the PSA DV5RC engine, there was an issue with the camshaft chain related to its width. Initially, the camshaft chain had a width of 7mm, which posed some durability and reliability concerns.
The 7mm width of the camshaft chain led to premature wear and elongation over time. This wear caused the chain to stretch or wear out faster than expected, which could result in timing issues within the engine. Such wear could cause the chain to jump teeth or lose synchronization with the camshaft, potentially causing significant engine damage, like bent valves or piston damage due to incorrect timing.
To tackle this problem and improve the engine's reliability, PSA Group later modified the camshaft chain by increasing its width from 7mm to 8mm. This change effectively increased the chain's width, making it more robust and less susceptible to premature wear and elongation. The upgraded 8mm width of the camshaft chain was better equipped to withstand the stresses of engine operation over time.
The modification aimed to enhance the durability and longevity of the camshaft chain, ensuring proper timing and reducing the likelihood of engine failures associated with issues related to the width of the chain in the PSA DV5RC engine
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