Old Man s Car?

[bad company]

I’ve been hankering over a Range Rover for a long time. My problem with them apart from the cost is the sheer size even if I went for slightly smaller Velar.

I started looking around a new Volvo XC60 seems to tick all of my boxes - fast enough, not too thirsty, very well equipped (I really want massage seats) and not as big as the RR.

Trouble is Mrs BC is convinced that Volvos are only driven by old men??

Any thoughts or alternative suggestions? My spec below:-

https://www.volvocars.com/uk/build/xc60-hybrid/sum...

[blueg33]

That s nonsense. My wife has a V60cc (her second), my neighbours wife has an XC60, Volvos are common on the school run. Plus every other Range Rover appears to be driven by a bellend of one sort or another, but usually a fat balding guy wearing tweed.

Edited by blueg33 on Wednesday 1st April 05:40

[Stick Legs]

blueg33 said:

That s nonsense. My wife has a V60cc (her second), my neighbours wife has an XC60, Volvos are common on the school run. Plus every other Range Rover appears to be driven by a bellend of one sort or another.

That still leaves 50% of them that aren't.

If you are handy with spanners and have a half decent Land Rover specialist nearby then a Range Rover need not be ruinous.

I'm 5 years and 60k miles into mine and it's been fabulous.

Parts prices aren't the issue, it's the time taken to do anything that hurts.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

At least try one, an L405 is a wonderful way of getting about the place.

[Davie]

I think your wife needs to update her 1980s mindset. The old man / Volvo stereotype is as outdated as most of the other motoring stereotypes that were being churned out decades ago.

[bad company]

Davie said:

I think your wife needs to update her 1980s mindset. The old man / Volvo stereotype is as outdated as most of the other motoring stereotypes that were being churned out decades ago.

My thoughts exactly.

[SWoll]

All utterly subjective, so telling someone they are wrong is pointless. The fact you have specced the car in grey and have a penchant for massage seats would suggest you're leaning into the old man image TBH.

Are there any alternatives to a £73k mid sized Volvo SUV? Yes, numerous.

[blueg33]

Stick Legs said:

blueg33 said:

That s nonsense. My wife has a V60cc (her second), my neighbours wife has an XC60, Volvos are common on the school run. Plus every other Range Rover appears to be driven by a bellend of one sort or another.

That still leaves 50% of them that aren't.

If you are handy with spanners and have a half decent Land Rover specialist nearby then a Range Rover need not be ruinous.

I'm 5 years and 60k miles into mine and it's been fabulous.

Parts prices aren't the issue, it's the time taken to do anything that hurts.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

At least try one, an L405 is a wonderful way of getting about the place.

The half was a very carefully selected made up stat

[andrewpandrew]

Have you tried the massage seats? I’ll be honest, I think they’re a bit rubbish.

[ettore]

bad company said:

My thoughts exactly.

Rather the same as outdated stereotypes about Range Rover drivers.

Tbh, I’d try them first. My wife thought about a Volvo to have a bit of a change, but she loathed the thing. Crap powertrains and all very beige:

[Square Leg]

My 20 yo son has just bought a Volvo..
He loves it.

[ARH]

I bought my first Volvo at 60 years old, am sure I'm not old

[Scrump]

bad company said:

Trouble is Mrs BC is convinced that Volvos are only driven by old men??

Any thoughts or alternative suggestions?

Show Mrs BC this:

[andy43]

I was in a new XC60 last week with the light coloured interior - a lovely place to sit. Open pore wood, light and bright and great seats. Not old person at all.
Even had a handy tray for my Werthers

[Decky_Q]

Had massage seats in a few cars and they were universally useless. You could select massage types but all it did was inflate/ deflate bags at different speeds and a few rotating bumps.

[TheInternet]

Scrump said:

Show Mrs BC this:

I'm sorry to inform you that the driver of that car is now also an old man.

[SWoll]

Volvo make safe, well built, comfortable and unassuming cars. Nothing wrong with that, but will skew the ownership demographic in a particular direction.

Why else would they have launched Polestar as a younger/cooler sister brand in the EV space despite having their own models?

[Skodillac]

Davie said:

I think your wife needs to update her 1980s mindset. The old man / Volvo stereotype is as outdated as most of the other motoring stereotypes that were being churned out decades ago.

Even if she can't perhaps she could be persuaded that it really doesn't matter in any real sense.

What a load of old rubbish, old man's car, I'll look like an airport taxi driver, etc etc. Utter bks. Who cares.

[Snubs]

Skodillac said:

Even if she can't perhaps she could be persuaded that it really doesn't matter in any real sense.

What a load of old rubbish, old man's car, I'll look like an airport taxi driver, etc etc. Utter bks. Who cares.

Oddly, I think that the image / presumptions about what the brand says about the driver side of things matters far more to people outside the car enthusiast community than those within it. Those are the people who care

[Neil-nvaua]

bad company said:

Trouble is Mrs BC is convinced that Volvos are only driven by old men??

For balance, she thinks a RR (presuming we are talking about the FFRR) is a younger person's car

I'd say they are both as 'old man' as each other, and very spec dependent. The XC60 is still abailable in fetching shades of metallic pale blue and red with creamy beige interior if you do want to go full pensioner, or you can go 'black edition' with big wheels and parchment seats with nice modern wood trim for a more youthful 'trainee architect' look

ETA I have the XC60 in pretty much the same spec as you've created only with black paint and different wheels. I've done 17k miles since I got it new 12mths ago and it's been hard to fault. I'd prefer a little more boot space but the next size of car up are a little bigger than I'd like for trips to Cornwall, the Lakes, Scottish Highlands etc so I've just stuck an (old man) roof box on it.

Edited by Neil-nvaua on Wednesday 1st April 12:37

[MrTrilby]

andrewpandrew said:

Have you tried the massage seats? I ll be honest, I think they re a bit rubbish.

I quite like them on ours. Definitely not a massage, but for giving your back a bit of movement when you’ve been sat in the same seat for hours as you’re driving from Lands End to John O’Groats without stopping, I find them quite handy.

As for them being for old men, who really cares? If the car does what you need then buy it. Easy for me to say though as I’m an old man.