Replace a Tesla Model Y Performance
Discussion
I've had Teslas since 2019 now - a Model 3 Performance and currently a Model Y Performance.
Great cars, I really rate them, loads of performance, loads of tech, comfortable, spacious, efficient, great family wagons.
BUT... I'm kind of bored of them. The new Y is the obvious choice but it's expensive and.... the same as my current Y.
Budget up to £70k
EV or ICE, I would prefer EV I think but I appreciate it limits me to a Taycan, realistically. I have home charging and EV tariff etc, so it would make a lot of sense but equally, I don't do loads of miles - 8k a year maybe and we have another EV in the household so we would still use the charger etc...
Estate, large hatchback or an SUV (prefer an estate).
I would like a 'keeper' again - something petrolhead-y, something I can get excited about detailing, something you don't see too many of, something I can keep long term, I would like to get out of the change-every-3-years cycle.
Current shortlist;
Taycan Cross Turismo/Sport Turismo (4S, maybe)
RS6
M3 Touring
RS4?
None of the above would be new given my budget. Some would be more of a compromise than others.
The new Lotus Eletre is an absolute unit of a thing, looks too big for the trips and places I go so I've ruled them out, unless anyone wishes to convince me otherwise.
Cheers!
Great cars, I really rate them, loads of performance, loads of tech, comfortable, spacious, efficient, great family wagons.
BUT... I'm kind of bored of them. The new Y is the obvious choice but it's expensive and.... the same as my current Y.
Budget up to £70k
EV or ICE, I would prefer EV I think but I appreciate it limits me to a Taycan, realistically. I have home charging and EV tariff etc, so it would make a lot of sense but equally, I don't do loads of miles - 8k a year maybe and we have another EV in the household so we would still use the charger etc...
Estate, large hatchback or an SUV (prefer an estate).
I would like a 'keeper' again - something petrolhead-y, something I can get excited about detailing, something you don't see too many of, something I can keep long term, I would like to get out of the change-every-3-years cycle.
Current shortlist;
Taycan Cross Turismo/Sport Turismo (4S, maybe)
RS6
M3 Touring
RS4?
None of the above would be new given my budget. Some would be more of a compromise than others.
The new Lotus Eletre is an absolute unit of a thing, looks too big for the trips and places I go so I've ruled them out, unless anyone wishes to convince me otherwise.
Cheers!
Would be difficult to top a Y performance as an allround package.
The new ix3 is the best from a euro manufacturer imo, though less space, slower, worse app etc, but you get pants pulled down on the options list, and it's not worth £70k imo.
What are you looking for from a car? I'm not a porsche person myself, but the taycan or Macan are their most interesting cars for years.
The new ix3 is the best from a euro manufacturer imo, though less space, slower, worse app etc, but you get pants pulled down on the options list, and it's not worth £70k imo.
What are you looking for from a car? I'm not a porsche person myself, but the taycan or Macan are their most interesting cars for years.
Out of that list I'd say M3 Touring.
Not horrific on fuel compared to the RS6, just as quick, a bit of 'cool' being one of the only gens where they've done an M3 estate.
RS4 will feel slow after the Tesla which normally wouldn't be annoying if you were comparing with an ICE car, but will be when you're paying to fuel it...
I think the M3 would be a keeper for me also due to the adjustability, if you started to get bored you can adjust the rear bias of the 4WD system, adjust some other settings etc. If you got bored of the power they reliably run 700bhp with a remap so would be quicker than anything else on your shortlist.
Taycans are lovely but I hear reliability on them isn't great, and they seem to be hard to move on if you changed your mind.
Not horrific on fuel compared to the RS6, just as quick, a bit of 'cool' being one of the only gens where they've done an M3 estate.
RS4 will feel slow after the Tesla which normally wouldn't be annoying if you were comparing with an ICE car, but will be when you're paying to fuel it...
I think the M3 would be a keeper for me also due to the adjustability, if you started to get bored you can adjust the rear bias of the 4WD system, adjust some other settings etc. If you got bored of the power they reliably run 700bhp with a remap so would be quicker than anything else on your shortlist.
Taycans are lovely but I hear reliability on them isn't great, and they seem to be hard to move on if you changed your mind.
Pickle_Rick said:
andy43 said:
F Pace SVR. Sensible size, not too SUVish to drive, decent interior on the facelift cars and a truly glorious engine.
Huge backwards step from an MY performance, other than it sounds good when gunning it. Which you won't at soon to be £2 a litreI should know - I went from a P100D to a Kia and bloody loved it.
Hammy98 said:
Out of that list I'd say M3 Touring.
Not horrific on fuel compared to the RS6, just as quick, a bit of 'cool' being one of the only gens where they've done an M3 estate.
RS4 will feel slow after the Tesla which normally wouldn't be annoying if you were comparing with an ICE car, but will be when you're paying to fuel it...
I think the M3 would be a keeper for me also due to the adjustability, if you started to get bored you can adjust the rear bias of the 4WD system, adjust some other settings etc. If you got bored of the power they reliably run 700bhp with a remap so would be quicker than anything else on your shortlist.
Taycans are lovely but I hear reliability on them isn't great, and they seem to be hard to move on if you changed your mind.
It's all very subjective isn't it as for me, when I see an M3 estate, I think it's a nice car but, for me, it's a BMW so no thank you. Not horrific on fuel compared to the RS6, just as quick, a bit of 'cool' being one of the only gens where they've done an M3 estate.
RS4 will feel slow after the Tesla which normally wouldn't be annoying if you were comparing with an ICE car, but will be when you're paying to fuel it...
I think the M3 would be a keeper for me also due to the adjustability, if you started to get bored you can adjust the rear bias of the 4WD system, adjust some other settings etc. If you got bored of the power they reliably run 700bhp with a remap so would be quicker than anything else on your shortlist.
Taycans are lovely but I hear reliability on them isn't great, and they seem to be hard to move on if you changed your mind.
RS6 or F-Pace SVR for me. A colleague has the latter and it's an awesome bit of kit. Lots of other choices though I am sure to consider.
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Edited by SWoll on Tuesday 14th April 07:22
Just test drove a new Model Y really liked it - also got a test in a Polestar 4 next week, the interior and build seems great, not sure on the "van" rear... (coming from a Audi Etron)
If you want more Taycan we are also going to test a Audi GT plus there is the new Polestar 5 coming (both currently £££ on lease....) and if you want left field the new Denza Z9 GT has over 1100hp! https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/electric-cars/n...
If you want more Taycan we are also going to test a Audi GT plus there is the new Polestar 5 coming (both currently £££ on lease....) and if you want left field the new Denza Z9 GT has over 1100hp! https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/electric-cars/n...
ColdoRS said:
BUT... I'm kind of bored of them. The new Y is the obvious choice but it's expensive and.... the same as my current Y.
I would add that the new Model Y Performance is a significant step on from the previous gen so well worth trying one.Better interior, much better seats, adaptive suspension etc. make a big difference and significantly differentiate it from the LR finally.
Alpina?
There are a few options, but this one fits nicely (just) into budget: https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/20249596
There are a few options, but this one fits nicely (just) into budget: https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/20249596
callahan said:
Alpina?
There are a few options, but this one fits nicely (just) into budget: https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/20249596
£70k for 2 year old 3 series diesel? Wow.There are a few options, but this one fits nicely (just) into budget: https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/20249596
One for the Alpina enthusiast/collector I'd suggest.
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