Buying a Golf R Estate import from Japan?
Buying a Golf R Estate import from Japan?
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MT09_94

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Yesterday (15:32)
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Hi all, what are everyone's opinion on buying a european car imported from Japan, in this case its a Golf R Estate?

I can pick up a super clean looking, 2015 <40k miles Golf R Estate for £16k, anything on the UK market for this price range usually has well above 70k miles. From my limited research the Japanese imports tend to be pretty damn spotless and rust free, well maintained vehicles.

I have seen discussions on both sides, people say why on earth would you buy an import VAG when the UK market has plenty, and other people saying they prefer imports due to condition etc.

What are everyone's thoughts on importing (regular, vastly available european cars) into the UK?

MDMA .

10,223 posts

125 months

Yesterday (15:36)
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Import every time. Thats if it’s as described.

Take note, there’s a few dealers where the paperwork/condition sheets seem to go “missing” during transport. Just make sure you do your own DD.

Genuine Barn Find

5,868 posts

239 months

Yesterday (18:23)
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I’ve bought imported cars from Japan, from a Series 3 Daimler Double Six to my current daily - a 2005 V70 P3 Ocean Race. Acquired it with 45,000 miles and after 3 years it has been 100% reliable.

Trevor555

5,147 posts

108 months

Yesterday (18:47)
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MDMA . said:
Import every time. Thats if it s as described.

Take note, there s a few dealers where the paperwork/condition sheets seem to go missing during transport. Just make sure you do your own DD.
Very much this, too many dealers about nowadays that just cannot make an honest living.

The last one I bought was a Mitsi Colt Ralliart, and no way was it a grade 4 car. Doctored auction sheet I guessed.

A shame because the many before had been totally as described, and amazing underneath.

I had a 12 year old (at the time) Delica that looked almost new everywhere (grade 4.5) and underneath had no rust at all.

More recently a Honda Elysion for fishing, and that was also beautiful.

Too easy for the dodgy dealers to tippex over the auction grade, and replace it with a four.

Beware anything grade zero, they've been accident repaired.

Good luck with your purchase, Love a Golf R estate, get it mapped, they're hilarious.

BUG4LIFE

2,450 posts

242 months

Yesterday (19:18)
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Yeah good idea. Just import with a legit company. Torque-GT for instance.

_Rodders_

1,731 posts

43 months

Yesterday (19:27)
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MT09_94 said:
Hi all, what are everyone's opinion on buying a european car imported from Japan, in this case its a Golf R Estate?

I can pick up a super clean looking, 2015 <40k miles Golf R Estate for £16k, anything on the UK market for this price range usually has well above 70k miles. From my limited research the Japanese imports tend to be pretty damn spotless and rust free, well maintained vehicles.

I have seen discussions on both sides, people say why on earth would you buy an import VAG when the UK market has plenty, and other people saying they prefer imports due to condition etc.

What are everyone's thoughts on importing (regular, vastly available european cars) into the UK?
Does the £16k include shipping, Duty, VAT and the fees on the Japan side.

Insurance can be more expensive too.

It usually works out more expensive than equivalent cars in the UK if you're importing a car that was officially sold here. But they nearly are always cleaner, as long as you avoid Hokkaido cars as that's their equivalent of Scotland, although not as bad.

MT09_94

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Yesterday (19:56)
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_Rodders_ said:
Does the £16k include shipping, Duty, VAT and the fees on the Japan side.

Insurance can be more expensive too.

It usually works out more expensive than equivalent cars in the UK if you're importing a car that was officially sold here. But they nearly are always cleaner, as long as you avoid Hokkaido cars as that's their equivalent of Scotland, although not as bad.
The 16k is on the UK side, fully registered and MOT'd ready to drive away

South tdf

1,789 posts

219 months

Yesterday (20:03)
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A friend was looking at a couple of Polo imports for his daughter’s first car. Both had done c.40,000 miles and apparently looked good. He did a Car VX report which is their version of an HPI check and both cars were auctioned in Japan with nearly double the current displayed mileage.

Earthdweller

18,133 posts

150 months

Yesterday (20:08)
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Do they get the same rust protection as ones sold in Europe ?

MT09_94

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Yesterday (20:31)
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South tdf said:
A friend was looking at a couple of Polo imports for his daughter s first car. Both had done c.40,000 miles and apparently looked good. He did a Car VX report which is their version of an HPI check and both cars were auctioned in Japan with nearly double the current displayed mileage.
Could that have been him reading it wrong? Auction report would show km/s and then it would be converted to miles when in the UK?

MT09_94

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Yesterday (20:32)
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Earthdweller said:
Do they get the same rust protection as ones sold in Europe ?
I'm not entirely sure, the place I'd be getting it from give them a full undercoat of clear seal anyway

South tdf

1,789 posts

219 months

Yesterday (21:09)
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MT09_94 said:
Could that have been him reading it wrong? Auction report would show km/s and then it would be converted to miles when in the UK?
80,000 km is more 40,000 miles.

thetapeworm

13,395 posts

263 months

Yesterday (21:18)
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There's a dealership near me (https://www.tpcleeds.co.uk) that specialises in imports, I noticed they had an assortment of stuff like RS3s, Golf Rs etc with square rear plates alongside the the other cars and they were all absolutely immaculate in comparison to similar UK market ones I'd been looking at.

It seems like a no-brainer if the prices are agreeable and you're comfortable with the history and documentation.

JM-Imports seems to have a steady flow of R36 estates coming in and they always look fantastic too.

AddyT.

435 posts

117 months

Yesterday (21:46)
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A relative used to import Mk5 and 6 GTI’s years ago and they were spotless cars. Always tempted me but didnt have the funds at the time. Would get one where its either already over here and had all the conversions or buy from an importer who does it all for you once the car arrives via the ship.

Hippea

3,387 posts

93 months

Yesterday (21:51)
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As others have said as long as the importer is legit, or alternatively import yourself. Japanese cars are extremely well looked after in my experience

_Rodders_

1,731 posts

43 months

MT09_94 said:
_Rodders_ said:
Does the £16k include shipping, Duty, VAT and the fees on the Japan side.

Insurance can be more expensive too.

It usually works out more expensive than equivalent cars in the UK if you're importing a car that was officially sold here. But they nearly are always cleaner, as long as you avoid Hokkaido cars as that's their equivalent of Scotland, although not as bad.
The 16k is on the UK side, fully registered and MOT'd ready to drive away
Sounds good. Just do your own CarVX check. They can and are faked regularly.

The cars tend to be so clean inside and out that 100k haircuts can be hard to spot.

_Rodders_

1,731 posts

43 months

There was a Facebook group called Clockers Exposed that highlighted loads of clocked cars for sale at dealers. Supposedly reputable JDM importers too.

It's since been removed, which serves no one other than the dodgy dealers.

Trevor555

5,147 posts

108 months

_Rodders_ said:
There was a Facebook group called Clockers Exposed that highlighted loads of clocked cars for sale at dealers. Supposedly reputable JDM importers too.

It's since been removed, which serves no one other than the dodgy dealers.
I come across clocked cars all the time, many ex lease, and many are prestige cars.

I've had some, let's say, interesting discussions with sellers/dealers who think they're the only clever one's.

Just last week I was given a service history book with dubious stamps.

The stamps mileages matched the MOT's exactly, but the services were done 100 miles away from the MOT centre.

I said to the dealer, "the person who's made this book up wasn't that clever"

His expression told me everything I needed to know.

So many dodgy dealers, many just can't make an honest living.

_Rodders_

1,731 posts

43 months

It's relatively easy to hide and I get the impression there's so many JDM importers that the margins must be really fine.

Good quality cars are not cheap at the Japanese auctions.