luxury long term car request
luxury long term car request
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Greavous

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5 posts

Yesterday (17:18)
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So i will sadly be getting some inheritance and have ear marked some for a nice car.

I currently have a 2011 ford fiesta worth roughly £3k and want something really nice and for a long time (10+ years if itll last), ive only had a license since 2019 and been driving for 2 years but had motorbikes for 12 years.

My limit is £20k maybe/maybe not including the £3k trade in for my fiesta. itll mainly be driving 1 mile to work 3 days a week then maybe 1-2 miles to the shops, once a month 10 miles to my dads house. i know this isnt good for a diesel but id just have to work in a weekend away a hundred or so miles to the nearest city once a month. altho anecdotally i know a good few diesel owners who never leave the town and they have nothing wrong with their diesels.

I did post on reddit and like every car recommend post they said lexus LS, while they are nice there arnt many for sale over the last year or so.
I keep looking at Jaguar XJL Portfolio's with entertainment packages and fancy seats, great for the child to watch stuff. i know to stay away from the 2.0 diesels so thats XF's out the window.

A friend recommended E-class cars but theres so many i cant find one i like enough and everytime i find a car i like i search for common faults and everything says do not buy! such as a maserati ghibli.

So im posting here for suggesting in my price range and for my general uses/wants. NO HATCHBACKS! or estates please and 4 doors needed. happy to provide more info if needed.

Flyingakite

126 posts

1 month

Yesterday (17:31)
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20k. You need to put money aside for things that will go wrong.

Do you want dependability. Drivers car etc mpg how many miles a year?

Greavous

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Yesterday (17:45)
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Flyingakite said:
20k. You need to put money aside for things that will go wrong.

Do you want dependability. Drivers car etc mpg how many miles a year?
how soon go wrong and how much? i wouldnt expect like a £2k job in the first year or atleast i wouldnt want that.

id like it moderately dependable as i know with fancier cars its expected more to go wrong. i personally dislike driving (because of other drivers and my town having traffic lights every 50m) so automatic and just nice to be in. if i got the XJ ive already checked about getting it 'blue mapped' for MPG.

ill be lucky to hit maybe 3 a year? had my current cars over 2 years now and done between 2.5-3k miles total.

Flyingakite

126 posts

1 month

Yesterday (17:53)
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Things like tyres are 150-200 a go.

Plus oil changes etc add up.

These are 60k new cars so running costs aren't cheap and you need to put money aside just incase.

I like the Kia stinger. Might be able to get top of range a lot of car for money.

swanseaboydan

2,346 posts

189 months

Yesterday (17:55)
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Porsche macan ? I’ve had a couple and they are great cars - 20k should get you one

davek_964

10,958 posts

201 months

Yesterday (17:55)
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You dislike driving, but you want to spend £20k on a luxury car - which for many of its journeys will do 1 mile from stone cold?

It seems an odd choice - (very) short journeys aren't much good for petrol cars either. It won't get close to being warm.

Greavous

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5 posts

Yesterday (18:00)
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davek_964 said:
You dislike driving, but you want to spend £20k on a luxury car - which for many of its journeys will do 1 mile from stone cold?

It seems an odd choice - (very) short journeys aren't much good for petrol cars either. It won't get close to being warm.
I dislike my fiesta, its ugly, boring and no room in it. i tend to walk everywhere i can because parking is terrible here aswell.

but if i have to have a car as i need it for shopping and longer travel i want something i like.

im not opposed to a hybrid but i cant an a EV as there is next to zero charging here and i cant do it from home.


Edited by Greavous on Monday 8th June 18:03

ZX10R NIN

30,280 posts

151 months

Yesterday (18:04)
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If you can stretch then there's the Genesis G80:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202603090...

Or you can spend half of your budget & get an original Genesis:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202604081...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202606063...

P700DEE

1,192 posts

256 months

Yesterday (18:15)
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Get an XJ smile Avoid the diesels on the journeys you are looking at you won't save much cash. I'd get an X350 beautiful cars, all alloy and on a good run 30mpg from the base 4.2 V8. Little goes wrong except the air suspension but same with any limo on air. Easy to get a great one for £5K go for an XJR still under £10K. Pre 2006 so not mega tax insurance isn't bad and the XJR will surprise you after a Fiesta. Save the rest of your cash just in case but hopefully you wont need to put your hand in your pocket.

Greavous

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5 posts

Yesterday (18:17)
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P700DEE said:
Get an XJ smile Avoid the diesels on the journeys you are looking at you won't save much cash. I'd get an X350 beautiful cars, all alloy and on a good run 30mpg from the base 4.2 V8. Little goes wrong except the air suspension but same with any limo on air. Easy to get a great one for £5K go for an XJR still under £10K. Pre 2006 so not mega tax insurance isn't bad and the XJR will surprise you after a Fiesta. Save the rest of your cash just in case but hopefully you wont need to put your hand in your pocket.
should i be buying a car that old? my fiesta is 2011 and i thought that was old

georgeyboy12345

4,466 posts

61 months

Yesterday (18:21)
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Get something like this plugin hybrid BMW 530e. That ll cope perfectly with the short journeys as you can just run it in electric mode and it ll save you a load of money on petrol. You can charge it on your driveway.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202606053...

durbster

11,899 posts

248 months

Yesterday (18:21)
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P700DEE said:
Get an XJ smile Avoid the diesels on the journeys you are looking at you won't save much cash. I'd get an X350 beautiful cars, all alloy and on a good run 30mpg from the base 4.2 V8.
The dude's only going a mile - the car's parked and switched off before half the cylinders are even aware the journey's started biggrin

Greavous

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Yesterday (18:26)
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durbster said:
The dude's only going a mile - the car's parked and switched off before half the cylinders are even aware the journey's started biggrin
im not opposed to a hybrid but i cant charge at home as im a terrace , itd be supermarket chargers for me as thats all thats here.

P700DEE

1,192 posts

256 months

Yesterday (18:35)
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Greavous said:
P700DEE said:
Get an XJ smile Avoid the diesels on the journeys you are looking at you won't save much cash. I'd get an X350 beautiful cars, all alloy and on a good run 30mpg from the base 4.2 V8. Little goes wrong except the air suspension but same with any limo on air. Easy to get a great one for £5K go for an XJR still under £10K. Pre 2006 so not mega tax insurance isn't bad and the XJR will surprise you after a Fiesta. Save the rest of your cash just in case but hopefully you wont need to put your hand in your pocket.
should i be buying a car that old? my fiesta is 2011 and i thought that was old
Joe Public is now driving older cars than ever before. Cars like your 2011 Fiesta are still reliable and common. Investing in a car less than 10 years old means you are still very much on the depreciation curve, 20 years old means you are at the bottom, 30+ years old they might even go up in value. The government made post 2006 petrol cars expensive as they wanted to make us buy diesels, post 2016 diesels unreliable thanks to DPF etc.
Limos are built to last and take miles well. Service them and they are reliable. Alloy bodies banish most rust that has ended huge numbers of great cars on UK roads. If you want to spend £20K and do the miles you do in lots of comfort the dreaded EV is a choice. You'd easily get an iPace, Teslas
Try some out , youll get lots of suggestions.

InitialDave

14,684 posts

145 months

Yesterday (18:39)
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I think for your use case, I would start with having a drive of some flavour of Lexus hybrid to see if you like it, and working outwards from there.

Inlineonline

1,053 posts

3 months

Yesterday (18:56)
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£5k on a BMW i3 - with your usage you’d only have to charge once a fortnight probably and it will do your short trips better than any other car plus be a lot more fun to drive than your Fiesta.

£15k on a second gen Jaguar XKR

Job done

paul_c123

2,118 posts

19 months

Yesterday (19:12)
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Greavous said:
A friend recommended E-class cars but theres so many i cant find one i like enough and everytime i find a car i like i search for common faults and everything says do not buy! such as a maserati ghibli.
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Merc CLS, probably a petrol V8 version. Another suggestion might be, Audi RS4.

Or......spend the money on a decent holiday instead?

LRDefender

621 posts

34 months

Yesterday (19:26)
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If I put my sensible head on I would suggest you look at a Tesla. Maybe look at the current lease deal Tesla are doing and you'll get a warranty and cheap fuel.

Monkeylegend

28,682 posts

257 months

Yesterday (19:30)
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Good old PH, OP has said at least twice he has not got access to home charging and other chargers are not easy to find and yet he keeps being told to go electric.

You can get a very nice petrol 3 or 5 series BMW for you budget. that's where my money would go.

andyalan10

527 posts

163 months

Yesterday (19:43)
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A couple of points I would make:-

At 1500 miles pa you would only be charging an electric car about once every 6 weeks, so having to do it away from the house, and maybe paying a high price might not be a big issue. Kia EV6 perhaps (hatchback I know).

At 1500 miles pa you could get a lot more for your money by buying a young high mileage car. After a couple of years of your ownership mileage will be down to average.

How flash a car do you want to be parking on a street of terraced houses?

Personally I'd be looking at a 2020ish Lexus ES, or Volvo S90 long before I looked at a 15 year old Jag for infrequent use and with a wish to keep a car for a long time.

Also isn't a Japanese import BMW 5 series or Volvo or similar a good way of getting a newer, high spec petrol executive car without ruinous annual tax?