Another What car - 50K for an investment
Another What car - 50K for an investment
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balls-out

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3,794 posts

260 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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a mate of mine - who is fairly wealthy these days) is thinking of spending 50k as an investment on a car. He's not a huge car man, so has turned to me for advice. I've told him to buy a property but he's already got several of those...
I think its partly to amuse his two sons....
So any thoughts?

Personally I think I'd go for a nice early 80 Aston v8 (somrthing like http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/classic-car-pa...


belleair302

7,008 posts

236 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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Why tie all of your money up in just one car? I would spread the risk and buy two. Lancia Delta Evo II and a BMW E 30 M3 Sport Evo. Both are classics now and both in ten years time will still be amazing cars to drive, enjoy and only increase in value.

Mc lovin

5,588 posts

250 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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Meh just buy 2 E30 M3 Evo's that'll do.

shirt

25,377 posts

230 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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might be slightly above budget, but i personally think ferrari 512bbi's are underpriced and getting more press recently.

246gt's were £50-60k a few years back, double that today.

andy43

13,131 posts

283 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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Find the best low mileage 993 Turbo, and drive it.

Chris71

21,549 posts

271 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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If you're not a car person, why buy a car? Unless you're very canny they're unlikely to make much money. If you're an enthusiast then braking even while having fun is better than turning a profit, but if you're just after cash there must be a better way of doing it?

You'd need something classic I think - if it's recent £50k is too much for an 'everyman' cult modern classic and too little for serious metal. A nice coach built Derby Bentley maybe? I do like the ('80s) V8 Vantage idea - that should buy a relatively nice original one. What about an E-Type? A bit too obvious, not likely to appreciate much, but fairly sound. A somewhat special retro 911 - a 1970s RS perhaps?

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

271 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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shirt said:
might be slightly above budget, but i personally think ferrari 512bbi's are underpriced and getting more press recently.

246gt's were £50-60k a few years back, double that today.
Missed the boat on the Boxer.

Testarossa or perhaps 348 GTC for me.

balls-out

Original Poster:

3,794 posts

260 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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I have suggested to him that its not a good place to put money..
I doubt he'll go for anything as mainstream as a BMW.
50k is a guide - I'd guess he could easily double it for something special.
Still at least he's promised to insure me and let me drive it smile

paul13

770 posts

231 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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What about:

1. Porsche 964 RS (if you are lucky)
2. Porsche 356
3. Renault Sport Spider (£20K ish)
4 Lotus Exige S1 (20+K ish)

The Aston would be a good bet - but has been said before you would buy something you enjoyed: not just for an investment when you include running cost.

paul13

770 posts

231 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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balls-out said:
I have suggested to him that its not a good place to put money..
I doubt he'll go for anything as mainstream as a BMW.
50k is a guide - I'd guess he could easily double it for something special.
Still at least he's promised to insure me and let me drive it smile
If he could double it then no question - Porsche 993 RS (this will go up in value).

Even better Porsche 964 3.8RS (but don't know how much they cost - maybe a dealer on here can advise).

DJC

23,563 posts

265 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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There is only one obvious answer...Testarossa.

They will *never* go below a hard limit of £25k for anything like a half decent earlier one, whilst the more sorted later cars wont go below £30k even at the moment in their lowest ebb.

All their Flat 12s and classic V12s of late have only been moving one way.


ocrx8

894 posts

225 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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BMW Z8

shirt

25,377 posts

230 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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Justayellowbadge said:
shirt said:
might be slightly above budget, but i personally think ferrari 512bbi's are underpriced and getting more press recently.

246gt's were £50-60k a few years back, double that today.
Missed the boat on the Boxer.

Testarossa or perhaps 348 GTC for me.
I still think the BB's have a way to go, but agree on the testarossa.

Am hoping 355 prices hold for a few more years yet mind, though I'd allow them to plummet to a level I can afford right now!

Vidal Baboon

9,074 posts

244 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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Alfa SZ/RZ
BMW Z1/Z8
De Tomaso Guara/Pantera
Ford RS1600 Mk 1, RS200 in the price bracket?
Fezza 308
Mercedes pagoda SL
Lancia Delta Evo
Mercedes 190 Evo 2
Porsche 930 Turbo


gtr-gaz

5,281 posts

275 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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This would be my choice smile



Will never go down in value and, a lot cheaper to run / repair than an E type or Roller!

Chris71

21,549 posts

271 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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contango said:
I would consider something LHD, you have a wider European and US market, even the Japanese prefer their classics that way....the reason I say that is in 10 years time, we may be in a different position in the Uk with use of our classics?...At least with a Leftie, you may have more liquidity to sell to a wider market base?
Makes a lot of sense providing it's something that was exclusively or mostly LHD - perhaps less so if there are plentiful RHD examples though.

belleair302

7,008 posts

236 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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BMW Z8's are well into the £70,000 plus range and are massively overpriced in the UK. Cheaper in Germany and the USA.

Why is the possible investor so anti BMW. The E30 M3 is possibly one of the best investments possible and a real world classic. Aston's are not great cars, never will be and those built in the late 1980's are dreadful to drive and massively expensive to restore.

Testarossa, prone to bodywork issues, the interior is terrible and the driving experience is dreadful.

993 Porsche Turbo is a classic, 964 RS is near to £50,000 and a certain classic. 993 GT2 would not be a bad buy if one could be found!

DJC

23,563 posts

265 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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belleair302 said:
BMW Z8's are well into the £70,000 plus range and are massively overpriced in the UK. Cheaper in Germany and the USA.

Why is the possible investor so anti BMW. The E30 M3 is possibly one of the best investments possible and a real world classic. Aston's are not great cars, never will be and those built in the late 1980's are dreadful to drive and massively expensive to restore.

Testarossa, prone to bodywork issues, the interior is terrible and the driving experience is dreadful.

993 Porsche Turbo is a classic, 964 RS is near to £50,000 and a certain classic. 993 GT2 would not be a bad buy if one could be found!
Likewise the same about the BB. Not stopped the price rises.

The 964RS is overpriced.

993tt is a good shout I think. The 993GT2 is a tad more than £50k.

The E30 is already solid on price. Only the very special/best ones will keep those solid prices.
Astons have always had a price cachet, esp those with a certain style/USP.

williamp

20,381 posts

302 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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The Aston V8- in particular the DBS V8 is going up in value:





Mine will be for sale soon, by the way paperbag

jackal

11,251 posts

311 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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why the hell are people quoting cars like the 964, 993 rs and E30 evos that have already shot up ? Those ships set sail LONG ago. Disagree with the 993tt as well.. most are already over priced and beauty aside, they are not the iconic drive that one would hope for.


my vote goes for a 996 GT3RS... cheapest they've ever been at the moment and in 5-10 years time will be worth 100k+ no question. they made FAR fewer of them than the 993 and 964 rs yet held in the same regard by enthuisiasts and the press.

that's what i'm getting anyway

Edited by jackal on Monday 2nd November 19:32