blowers not blowing
blowers not blowing
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mr-manners

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185 posts

214 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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still get heat coming through the vents but blowers have given up,garage say £600 for new unit as you have to buy the entire box shroud thing or strip it down and try fix it,lengthy job and not guaranteed.

Has anyone had this problem and know of an easy fix?

cheers Simon

GC1

908 posts

209 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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check fuse's bud ?

F.C.

3,901 posts

237 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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Fit fan unit from Mk 4/5 escort, resistor pack is proper not a curled up wire on a plastic insert.
Fitting is relatively straight forward, cut lugs off escort fan unit to match Noble drill holes to match Noble, fit.

bd getting heater box off for first time. I removed the top of mine permanently and fitted an "easily" removable lid for future occasions.
If you do this swap the tunnel mod is a no brainer as the front of the tunnel is exposed with heater box out.

mgbond

6,749 posts

261 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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I cut mine open with dremel, remove unit and had brought this Mk5 fan. But it was to big for my box. Noticed it was the brushes do replaced them from the eBay mk5 one I brought. Also used the resistor pack but as it doesn't fit I required it and just secured it with sealant inside. Then seal box back up.

It's a paIn to try and remove the whole box assembly.

Bondy

mgbond

6,749 posts

261 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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Std one in the 2.5.



This is the bigger unit showing the resistor pack. The pack for the other one is in a pocket in one of the fans and is just a mess of coils.



Bondy

mr-manners

Original Poster:

185 posts

214 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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Thanks for the replies lads fuses checked and resistor replaced still no joy. looks like i will have to enter the box, boo hiss

mgbond

6,749 posts

261 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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You have replaced the resistor pack already after only posting today. You got one quick. Are you sure u have replaced the resistor PACK?

Bondy

mr-manners

Original Poster:

185 posts

214 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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Hi Bondy yes should of said they had been checked before posting,blowers stopped working as i took it for last service in november and the garage checked fuses and changed resistor then,but i didnt fancy forking out £600 for new box or ?£££ to get in the box.

i try not to take it out in the rain so havnt needed blowers for de-misting so far but dont want to get caught out,so thought id see if there was an easy fix.

cheers Simon

Adrian W

15,449 posts

257 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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Has anyone got better pictures of a stripped blower unit? this is a project I keep thinking about, a good Noble blower unit is still pretty rubbish, I am sure I must be able to find a modern fan/motor unit that can be made to fit.

The Snail

195 posts

209 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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mgbond said:
I cut mine open with dremel, remove unit and had brought this Mk5 fan. But it was to big for my box. Noticed it was the brushes do replaced them from the eBay mk5 one I brought. Also used the resistor pack but as it doesn't fit I required it and just secured it with sealant inside. Then seal box back up.

It's a paIn to try and remove the whole box assembly.

Bondy
Do you get to this from inside the front clam? I can't seem to find where the fan box is loated.

daddysumo

2,545 posts

242 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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F.C. said:
Fit fan unit from Mk 4/5 escort, resistor pack is proper not a curled up wire on a plastic insert.
Fitting is relatively straight forward, cut lugs off escort fan unit to match Noble drill holes to match Noble, fit.

bd getting heater box off for first time. I removed the top of mine permanently and fitted an "easily" removable lid for future occasions.
If you do this swap the tunnel mod is a no brainer as the front of the tunnel is exposed with heater box out.
Did you remove/cut just the lid to get enough access or remove the whole box ?
If you did remove the box where are the fixings etc please ?
Got to replace my fan unit so will get the one described above...

TuxMan

9,011 posts

267 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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Hi Simon , does the aircon light come on if you push the nob in ???

Tux

JBliss

1,149 posts

186 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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If you aren't getting anything, including the aircon light as Simon mentioned, then try a new relay.

F.C.

3,901 posts

237 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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daddysumo said:
Did you remove/cut just the lid to get enough access or remove the whole box ?
If you did remove the box where are the fixings etc please ?
Got to replace my fan unit so will get the one described above...
I removed the whole fan box to get at the fan unit and identify an appropriate replacement.
While it was out I cut off the top section of the fan box with a and fixed a few small right angle brackets to re-attach a "lid" with screws.
All this could be done with the fan box still in the car, the only reason I took it out was to identify the fan unit and at the time I wasn't sure how it all went together.

ETS. the fixing for the fan box are a bh they go through the fan box, bauklhead and heater box and sandwich them together, they are hex head screws, you will need to hold one end under the front clam whilst doing your best to access the other end under the dash, from memory you may need to remove the stainless wiper motor cover etc, aswell.
Like I said it's a bh of a job, hence fitting a lid for any future fan problems.

Edited by F.C. on Friday 13th July 10:35

mgbond

6,749 posts

261 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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F.C. said:
I removed the whole fan box to get at the fan unit and identify an appropriate replacement.
While it was out I cut off the top section of the fan box with a and fixed a few small right angle brackets to re-attach a "lid" with screws.
All this could be done with the fan box still in the car, the only reason I took it out was to identify the fan unit and at the time I wasn't sure how it all went together.

ETS. the fixing for the fan box are a bh they go through the fan box, bauklhead and heater box and sandwich them together, they are hex head screws, you will need to hold one end under the front clam whilst doing your best to access the other end under the dash, from memory you may need to remove the stainless wiper motor cover etc, aswell.
Like I said it's a bh of a job, hence fitting a lid for any future fan problems.

Edited by F.C. on Friday 13th July 10:35
The Nuts inside the car on mine managed to hold enough for me to undo the fan from inside the box. I didn't bother srewing it back in and just did a Grant and used silicone to seal it in place.

Bondy

RobP

2,097 posts

270 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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mr-manners said:
still get heat coming through the vents but blowers have given up,garage say £600 for new unit as you have to buy the entire box shroud thing or strip it down and try fix it,lengthy job and not guaranteed.

Has anyone had this problem and know of an easy fix?

cheers Simon
Did you get this sorted? I had a similar problem with mine about a year ago; turned out that a spring on the motor bushes had corroded and fallen-off. 1p rather than £600. Motor accessed through cutting the box from the front as others have mentioned.

mr-manners

Original Poster:

185 posts

214 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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RobP said:
Did you get this sorted? I had a similar problem with mine about a year ago; turned out that a spring on the motor bushes had corroded and fallen-off. 1p rather than £600. Motor accessed through cutting the box from the front as others have mentioned.
Yes took it to jetstream who fixed it for nearly pence,had the tunnel cooling mod done at same time,plus other bits plus train fare,petrol etc still nowhere near as dear as'the garage i used to use' Another big thumbs up for Matt and Dave smile

nigelw

706 posts

230 months

Monday 16th July 2012
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has anyone got a picture / template for where you could cut to get at the resistor pack without removing the heater assembly ( 3 R if there are any differences ) . Mine is intermittent , but the size of the job put me off ! frown thanks , Nigel

Adrian W

15,449 posts

257 months

Monday 16th July 2012
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nigelw said:
has anyone got a picture / template for where you could cut to get at the resistor pack without removing the heater assembly ( 3 R if there are any differences ) . Mine is intermittent , but the size of the job put me off ! frown thanks , Nigel
afaik its just behind the wiper motor bracket,side of the heater box, little square panel,

nigelw

706 posts

230 months

Monday 16th July 2012
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Adrian W said:
afaik its just behind the wiper motor bracket,side of the heater box, little square panel,
Thanks ! ..I'll have a look for the spot at luch time ! smile