Opening a can of Worms

[Will M12]

Wright first of all sorry to all who wrote on last thread, I wasnt in best of mouds SORRY.

5 Weeks ago i blew my gearbox sky high and went about replacing it. When i took the engine out i opened another can of worms on the car. The rear supframe had started going rustie and the fuel pump wires from the ecu to multiplug on rear bulk head had burnt out, So i set about correcting these issues.
You would think after owning the car for 2 years my proplems would of stoped by now. I have replaced everything but the kitchen sink on the dam Motor and im sure plenty of you have had the same issue's. Anyways heres some pictures of the rear space frame and the new loom i made last night for 044 bosch pump and my gearbox cooling pump. The pictures of the loom aint the best but will upload better 1s later. Loom was done out of thinwall .










Loom picture aint the best at mo stupid Nokia phone. Will take somepropeir pictures today and upload them later of loom. I can make any fuel looms , fan looms etc in house.

[Will M12]

Ive also got to finish wrapping the space frame up.

[ShiDevil]

Right, we begin again, good apology, even better the patience shown on the work your doing, given what has happened.

Noble owners have much more patience than us TVR owners

[COSitsWORTHit]

Nicer thread ....No seriously well done on the apology peeps here looking are purely interested with best intentions and advice but after all its your car to do what you like with . Think you might of picked up a vibe that dont exist, can be easy done if not used to forum convo,s and when its your own vehicle its easy to be a bit protective over it lol........ Anyways nice loom there , how was it done and rigged up and what fuse rating are in the circuit? How long did it take i might do one for the Dagenham Dustbin .
Get that floor painted

[sunoco69]

COSitsWORTHit said:

Get that floor painted

I said that before! Standards!

[Will M12]

COSitsWORTHit said:

Nicer thread ....No seriously well done on the apology peeps here looking are purely interested with best intentions and advice but after all its your car to do what you like with . Think you might of picked up a vibe that dont exist, can be easy done if not used to forum convo,s and when its your own vehicle its easy to be a bit protective over it lol........ Anyways nice loom there , how was it done and rigged up and what fuse rating are in the circuit? How long did it take i might do one for the Dagenham Dustbin .
Get that floor painted

MMM I take it your Dagenham dusbin you mean Rs cosworth?? Im a proud Cosworth nut myself. Msd do what you want for next to nothing.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Sierra-Rs-Cosworth-...

Took about 3 hours in all but i did have to sort few issues out first. 30AMP relay with 30 amp fuse, wire is up to 32amp thinwall.

[andygtt]

lets not forget that it was my blunt comments that cause the can of worms to spill over... when its your own car it VERY easy to take things the wrong way especially when you have spent hours and hours slaving over it and then taken the time to share your work... I caused offense and I am also sorry as I wasnt meaning to.

anyway....

What you have done is very similar to me, I stripped mine and primer & painted the whole chassis and then had a whole new engine bay loom made in high quality thin loom wire.

Also, it all started with me removing the engine to replace the gearbox LSD

[Adrian W]

Will M12 said:

Loom picture aint the best at mo stupid Nokia phone. Will take somepropeir pictures today and upload them later of loom. I can make any fuel looms , fan looms etc in house.

I would suggest that the wire guage you have used is too small for fuel pump

[951]

Don't know about the wire, but isn't the fuse too big Will?

I would have expected 20A rather than 30A?

Regards

Graham

[R0162]

Wright .. gauge of wire too small and fuse too big and heat wrap Will trap moisture.. agreed??......

We understand why you were in a bad moud Will...we Will all miss Terry Dolphin very much he was an inspiratin to many...

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2011/10/03/one-of-n...

lol...apology accepted Will...but i have a special carved wooden spoon for occasions such as this

[Will M12]

951 said:

Don't know about the wire, but isn't the fuse too big Will?

I would have expected 20A rather than 30A?

Regards

Graham

Being a cosworth freak in my spare time and using a Bosch 044 i just wired it up the same way as i do with them, and msd do the same, And ian @ harness engineering does the same so im just follow the top 2 guys i know for loom work. 30 amp relay with 30 amp fuse

[951]

Will M12 said:

Being a cosworth freak in my spare time and using a Bosch 044 i just wired it up the same way as i do with them, and msd do the same, And ian @ harness engineering does the same so im just follow the top 2 guys i know for loom work. 30 amp relay with 30 amp fuse

Interesting.

I'm no electrical engineer, but I would have thought that a 30A relay is rated UPTO 30A max, so the fuse should be lower?

I have 2 044's on mine and they both have 20A fuses.

[Will M12]

951 said:

Interesting.

I'm no electrical engineer, but I would have thought that a 30A relay is rated UPTO 30A max, so the fuse should be lower?

I have 2 044's on mine and they both have 20A fuses.

Just done bit of research for 5 mins and yes a 20amp fuse is perfect. Bosch 044 draws 14.8 amp. Going to change that 1 tomorrow.
I must say never had any issues with 30amp fuse ever in all the looms ive done.

[Will M12]

[Metalman]

You won't have an issue until there's a fault, so if the pump starts to break down and you have a 30a fuse you could start melting wires etc before the fuse blows. Where as a 20a fuse would protect the circuit by blowing sooner.