some upgrades

[Hollowpockets]

done a few things to the car the past couple of weeks so heres a few pics, sorry for the lack of carbon dipped parts

turbo blankets


dash panel and new lights/switches, horn buttons are now 'happy buttons'


Water/meth injection kit fitted, you can see tank, pump, injector here.


Also had the alignment done, a wheel bearing and an oil change so nearly ready for another few track days.

Graham

[Scooby P1]

Hollow pockets indeed Graham!

Excuse my ignorance but what are the benefits of both of those things you have done?

Lawrence

[sunoco69]

I do like the turbo blankets.

[mgbond]

Yeah, where did you get the blankets from?

Bondy

[Hollowpockets]

I know, I'd call it an addiction.

Heat blankets will hopefully stop the turbos from turning the engine bay into a V6 sauna.

Happy buttons let loose the full 611 horses to blast past zee Germans.

Water/meth injection sprays a mist into the inlet which helps to cool the air and ultimately the pistons and protects the engine on high boost.

Graham

[Hollowpockets]

Here is the Item number on eBay, they fit the T28' housing on my GT28's, the advert claims they fit the T25 as well but I guess they might not be as tight a fit. There are more expensive options out there but I thought the manny from hong kong was worth a punt.

350546157331

When I received them I thought no way, far too big for my turbos, also sent an email to that effect and the guy refunded me £25 then offered a full refund, then I tried to fit them and they are a perfect fit, whoops, great feedback given though.

[Scooby P1]

All a bit advanced for my standard car!

Mind you, hoping for the fuel pump / wiring upgrade this w/e and then a remap with Trevor at some stage. I'll still be some way behind you and the 600 boys!

[R0162]

Hollowpockets said:

I know, I'd call it an addiction.

Heat blankets will hopefully stop the turbos from turning the engine bay into a V6 sauna.

Happy buttons let loose the full 611 horses to blast past zee Germans.

Water/meth injection sprays a mist into the inlet which helps to cool the air and ultimately the pistons and protects the engine on high boost.

Graham

Water meth injection is a great modification and will definately protect your engine, not only are you cooling the combustion chamber but you are now running on the equivalent of racing fuel, which makes your AFR so much safer...its on my most wanted list..no matter what the temps or what the IC is doing, the intake temps will be constantly low.
Did you go for the boost activated system or the Aquamist which is linked to the injector cycle?

The turbo blankets will also slow the cool down process of the turbos after a run, but the difference to underhood temps will be big.

I really like that centre console, thats not the same that Steve got made is it?

[Gadgeroonie]

do you have a warning light to let you know if the car has run out of water ?

was the car mapped with the water/meth running ?

[Hollowpockets]

The water/meth is controlled by the boost level, it starts injecting at 10 psi and increases frow upto peak boost of 22psi. I can adjust the start and peak points though. So it's only using water when im 'on it'.

The dash was done by Steve, I just gave a drawing of what me and Rob w wanted for the button layout.

Mike, there is a green LED on my dash to let me know the water level is low.

Car wasn't mapped with the injection to make power, it's just to cool and protect.

Graham

Edited by Hollowpockets on Thursday 24th May 17:24

[R0162]

i have to have one of those centre consoles..that looks class...

[Maark]

Where did you get your dash warning lights, I've been looking for some like that.
Thanks

[Gadgeroonie]

Hollowpockets said:

The water/meth is controlled by the boost level, it starts injecting at 10 psi and increases frow upto peak boost of 22psi. I can adjust the start and peak points though. So it's only using water when im 'on it'.

The dash was done by Steve, I just gave a drawing of what me and Rob w wanted for the button layout.

Mike, there is a green LED on my dash to let me know the water level is low.

Car wasn't mapped with the injection to make power, it's just to cool and protect.

Graham

Edited by Hollowpockets on Thursday 24th May 17:24

looks really neat - if you are worried about Det you could have a warning light that flashes if the engine Dets

[daddysumo]

Gadgeroonie said:

Hollowpockets said:

The water/meth is controlled by the boost level, it starts injecting at 10 psi and increases frow upto peak boost of 22psi. I can adjust the start and peak points though. So it's only using water when im 'on it'.

The dash was done by Steve, I just gave a drawing of what me and Rob w wanted for the button layout.

Mike, there is a green LED on my dash to let me know the water level is low.

Car wasn't mapped with the injection to make power, it's just to cool and protect.

Graham

Edited by Hollowpockets on Thursday 24th May 17:24

looks really neat - if you are worried about Det you could have a warning light that flashes if the engine Dets

Why have a warning light when you can stop the det and have all the other benefits......

[R0162]

daddysumo said:

Why have a warning light when you can stop the det and have all the other benefits......

...detonation is no longer a worry, lower intake temps and cooling effect on combustion chamber.. in fact it is time for me to install the same, it is worth it for lowering intake temps alone..

Even if the tank runs dry the car will still run safe as it is mapped without...you cant lose..

Can you please give me a link to where you bought this system.

Cheers

Chris

[F.C.]

I have no idea if this is where the OP system was bought but this is the manufacturers site.

http://www.aemelectronics.com/water-methanol-injec...

[TuxMan]

Looks good Graham , getting the water meth bottle in is fun isn't it !!
Tux

[chuntington101]

R0162 said:

...detonation is no longer a worry, lower intake temps and cooling effect on combustion chamber.. in fact it is time for me to install the same, it is worth it for lowering intake temps alone..

Even if the tank runs dry the car will still run safe as it is mapped without...you cant lose..

Can you please give me a link to where you bought this system.

Cheers

Chris

Form what i have heard spraying just water in to the intake WILL cost power! just think what water does to a fire, absorbs the energy and 'cools' the fire down, same thing will happen inside your cylinders. the water absorbs the energy as the fuel burns and slows the flame front down. this slower flame front is much less likely to dept. and therefore you have a higher dept. limit. So you can a dd a bit more boost and some more fuel and you are making more power.

Meth is different as its actually a fuel. With 'meth injections', asuming you are injection several feet from the intake port, you are using the evaporation of the fuel to help cool the intake temps. if you are spraying a good amount of meth you can get intake temps below ambient. Its a bit like the old carb guys with blow through turbos. Manifold temps would be VERY low as the fuel is evaperating in the intake manifold and absorbing the energy.

Methanol has a pretty high octane rating (106-109 i think) so you will be adding SOME octane. but dont forget that its only going to be what 10% of your total fuel delivery (by volume). most of the benifit will be due to the cooling effect NOT the added fuel/octane!

Alot of the guys in the states run 100% meth and dont tune for it. You will make more power up to a point (AFRs start to drop too much), and have nice cold intake temps. Think a mixture of water and meth will give the best results but you would have to tune for it.

From what i have heard this method of cooling the intake / adding dept. resistance was started in WW2 in aero engines. The merlin / Griffin engines used to spray masses of ADI fulid (water meth mix (approx 50/50 i think)) to make more power.

[chuntington101]

have you decided what mix (water/meth) you are going to be running yet?

[Blu3R]

I'm pleased some Nobles are running water injection these days after being flamed for even suggesting the idea 2+ years ago!!