Let's start a new intercooler debate....
Discussion
GTO600 said:
Possibly ok for road use but ontrack you would distroy the compressor...
They beg to differ on the FAQs"Does this only work for the street? Absolutely not! We have people who are using the KC on their vehicles for open track as well as the quarter mile strip, with great success I might add!"
"Using the AC, doesn’t it drag the motor down? AC technology has come a long way, and is much more efficient. Most AC systems draw no more than 7-8 HP when in operation. When you’re talking about 400+ HP vehicles, you will be hard pressed to notice this deficit. When you go into boost, the low side pressure will drop, and cut the AC compressor off anyway, so there will be no parasitic loss under full throttle."
Most interesting retorts.
One thing that might figure is this is for water-air intercoolers, and hence there will be quite a lot of latency in the system.
J
joust said:
hey beg to differ on the FAQs
"Does this only work for the street? Absolutely not! We have people who are using the KC on their vehicles for open track as well as the quarter mile strip, with great success I might add!"
"Using the AC, doesn’t it drag the motor down? AC technology has come a long way, and is much more efficient. Most AC systems draw no more than 7-8 HP when in operation. When you’re talking about 400+ HP vehicles, you will be hard pressed to notice this deficit. When you go into boost, the low side pressure will drop, and cut the AC compressor off anyway, so there will be no parasitic loss under full throttle."
Most interesting retorts.
One thing that might figure is this is for water-air intercoolers, and hence there will be quite a lot of latency in the system.
J
Hi Justin, l look forward to somebody trying it & then saying l told you so. An engine constantly going through the revs very quickly & hold peak revs for long periods ontrack is just what a compressor loves ...NOT. As for cutting the compressor off to protect it under boost that's the very time you need the cooling or am l missing something ?"Does this only work for the street? Absolutely not! We have people who are using the KC on their vehicles for open track as well as the quarter mile strip, with great success I might add!"
"Using the AC, doesn’t it drag the motor down? AC technology has come a long way, and is much more efficient. Most AC systems draw no more than 7-8 HP when in operation. When you’re talking about 400+ HP vehicles, you will be hard pressed to notice this deficit. When you go into boost, the low side pressure will drop, and cut the AC compressor off anyway, so there will be no parasitic loss under full throttle."
Most interesting retorts.
One thing that might figure is this is for water-air intercoolers, and hence there will be quite a lot of latency in the system.
J
As for the technology has come a long way B*****ks, the type of compressors used have been around for ages & as ever nothings for free - load the compressor then load the engine.
GTO600 said:
Hi Justin, l look forward to somebody trying it & then saying l told you so. An engine constantly going through the revs very quickly & hold peak revs for long periods ontrack is just what a compressor loves ...NOT. As for cutting the compressor off to protect it under boost that's the very time you need the cooling or am l missing something ?
As for the technology has come a long way B*****ks, the type of compressors used have been around for ages & as ever nothings for free - load the compressor then load the engine.
Totally agree. People have asked questions about prolonged usage of them and NEVER had responces on its ability to hold temps low whilst under contact laod. Might be ok for drag racing (you need a 5min or so cool down between runs) but useless for track work orr spirited road use. Look at the vids on the Tube and see how long it takes to get the temps low.As for the technology has come a long way B*****ks, the type of compressors used have been around for ages & as ever nothings for free - load the compressor then load the engine.
Also dont you need a chargecooler setup to run that?.....
Chris.
Adrian W said:
But a drop of 50 something degrees isn't enough
Now if you were talking 150 we would be cooking on gas
Easy dry ice. Job done! Now if you were talking 150 we would be cooking on gas
http://www.are.com.au/Big%20HP/Dry%20Ice%20race%20...
.... and it reduces spool up time to boot! lol
GTO600 said:
Hi Justin, l look forward to somebody trying it & then saying l told you so. An engine constantly going through the revs very quickly & hold peak revs for long periods ontrack is just what a compressor loves ...NOT. As for cutting the compressor off to protect it under boost that's the very time you need the cooling or am l missing something ?
As for the technology has come a long way B*****ks, the type of compressors used have been around for ages & as ever nothings for free - load the compressor then load the engine.
I quite concur. Hence my comment.As for the technology has come a long way B*****ks, the type of compressors used have been around for ages & as ever nothings for free - load the compressor then load the engine.
This of course falls somewhat into the "leave the fridge open to cool the room".
J
would be neat if we could add one that can be switched between aircon and aircontercooler
so you can have it when you need it
just use a chargecooler water/air heat exchanger after the intercooler
i guess that begs the question why not just fit a normal intercooler and chargecooler as tonyvan has done so
so you can have it when you need it
just use a chargecooler water/air heat exchanger after the intercooler
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i guess that begs the question why not just fit a normal intercooler and chargecooler as tonyvan has done so
Gadge.i fink we have been here b4.most have dismissed what i have done.thats fine as i wont be copied.my data proves 100% of the use of a charge cooler.woops im plugging it again....... Sorry a charge cooler is crap,it doesnt work,pressure drop is massive.temp drop is neglegable.DO NOT FIT ONE!!!
Gadge.i fink we have been here b4.most have dismissed what i have done.thats fine as i wont be copied.my data proves 100% of the use of a charge cooler.woops im plugging it again....... Sorry a charge cooler is crap,it doesnt work,pressure drop is massive.temp drop is neglegable.DO NOT FIT ONE!!!
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