Powdercoat Noble M12GTO3R 12 spoke Wheels
Powdercoat Noble M12GTO3R 12 spoke Wheels
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patsrocket

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275 posts

164 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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My noble is black and I am looking to do my wheels in Gloss black.
I have been searching about powdercoating the M12 12 spoke wheels and see different ideas and methods in regards to the fake bolt issue.

The consensus is that the (29) plastic fake bolt heads need to come out before work is done.
No one seems to have a source for the exact factory bolts.
Some say buy aftermarket plastic bolts or stainless bolts and cut the heads off.
Then glue or exposy them in?
Some say leave the bolts out.

So,I am debating Plastic or stainless black bolt heads,Typical stainless color stainless bolts,Plastic chrome if I can find them or just leaving them out.
I was thinking of using loctite brand for securing them but I see they have many different adhesives and expoxy's. Not sure which would be better? A quick online search I found loctite 29324 and E-50CR Expoxies,41004 and 280 adhesives?

All help and idea's would be appreciated.

Metalman

1,173 posts

247 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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I've had mine powder coated black and they look great, only thing is it seems to be very soft and scratch easy so doesn't look as good as paint. I've thought of having them lacquered but not sure if that's possible? The plastic bolt heads melt away when the wheels are dipped and I would prefer to replace them so let me know if you find anything to do the job.

patsrocket

Original Poster:

275 posts

164 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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Did you just leave the holes empty then?

I am not sure which route to go yet?
Regular Stainless,Black Plastic or black alloy steel?

sundance002

1,304 posts

193 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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patsrocket said:
Did you just leave the holes empty then?

I am not sure which route to go yet?
Regular Stainless,Black Plastic or black alloy steel?
I had my old wheels gloss blk powder coat, and glossed the nut heads that I stuck on, imo they looked better than silver on a blk car. Lepsons in Gillingham Kent done mine and they were fine and hard wearing, so just done the same to my new Speedlines and no chips so far.

patsrocket

Original Poster:

275 posts

164 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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Hi Sundance,

What type of bolts did you use (Plastic,stainless or steel alloy).
what kind of glue or adhesive was applied?

So far I have found matching black plastic and Black alloy bolts but stainless only in normal stainless color.

Thanks

sundance002

1,304 posts

193 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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patsrocket said:
Hi Sundance,

What type of bolts did you use (Plastic,stainless or steel alloy).
what kind of glue or adhesive was applied?

So far I have found matching black plastic and Black alloy bolts but stainless only in normal stainless color.

Thanks
I used plastic, only because they are easier to glue. If i had the same wheels now I wouldn't bother with the nuts.

AMG Merc

11,955 posts

282 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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Mine are boltless - look much better and hassle-free. If I had bolts I wouldn't go stainless or alloy, only plastic - but what a faff glueing them all in - and making them straight - and then having to do it all over again when you kerb then!

patsrocket

Original Poster:

275 posts

164 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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Interesting, Both of you say no bolts.
Has me really thinking now.

Spindoctor

856 posts

229 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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If you want to have the bolt look, give Martin at Bespoke a call - he can source really good aftermarket metal bolts designed for our wheels. Not cheap, but they look great. I've got some on mine. Or you can buy some hex bolts and cut the heads off then glue them in. Allow a good few hours to do it.

The wheels look far better with bolts than without, imho.

patsrocket

Original Poster:

275 posts

164 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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Hi spin,

What do those bolts look like?
Are they just the heads that you glue in or ?

Thanks

Spindoctor

856 posts

229 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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You can push them in and they stay tight, no need for glue. I'll see if I can post a pic over the weekend.

patsrocket

Original Poster:

275 posts

164 months

Friday 15th March 2013
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Great,Thanks

ShiDevil

2,293 posts

203 months

Friday 15th March 2013
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Metalman said:
I've had mine powder coated black and they look great, only thing is it seems to be very soft and scratch easy so doesn't look as good as paint. I've thought of having them lacquered but not sure if that's possible?.
Well there is your issue. If they didn't laquer when they did the refurb you have zero protection :/ it seems strange they wouldnt do this at the time :/ Here is an extract from Wheel Genies Website: "Last but not least the wheel now receives a coat of crystal clear powder coat lacquer to enhance and protect the finish, and again it is cured at high temperature".

AMG Merc

11,955 posts

282 months

Friday 15th March 2013
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Spindoctor said:
You can push them in and they stay tight, no need for glue. I'll see if I can post a pic over the weekend.
If they go in tight you risk breaking the lacquer seal and then they will corrode. Even plastic bolts will break the lacquer/paint seal. This is from experience.

F.C.

3,901 posts

237 months

Friday 15th March 2013
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Why would you use metal "fake" bolts on these wheels? Surely all you are doing is increasing the unsprung weight at each corner of the car.
Best use plastic or none IMO.

leylandracer

187 posts

244 months

Friday 15th March 2013
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How about anodized alloy socket cap bolts?(nice & light) such as these http://www.pro-bolt.com/aluminium/aluminium-bolts-...
Mine is without any which i can live with.......but may consider somthing if & when i get the wheels refurbed.

patsrocket

Original Poster:

275 posts

164 months

Friday 15th March 2013
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That is the 1st time I have seen aluminum ones. Alot of different ideas and options.

Lucozade

2,574 posts

308 months

Friday 15th March 2013
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Wouldn't waste your time with the bolts. They look fine without.

patsrocket

Original Poster:

275 posts

164 months

Friday 15th March 2013
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I know they have to come out to get powdercoated.
Then after powdercoating I will what they look like boltless and come up with choice.

AMG Merc

11,955 posts

282 months

Friday 15th March 2013
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patsrocket said:
I know they have to come out to get powdercoated.
Then after powdercoating I will what they look like boltless and come up with choice.
They will look like this...