March Car and Driver 0-60 in 3.3
March Car and Driver 0-60 in 3.3
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cutaway

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17 posts

255 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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The Noble M12 made the cover of the March Car and Driver. On the cover they announce that the M12 is capable of 0-60 in 3.3 seconds! There is a two page article inside that gives a glowing review of the Noble.

Here are the performance test results printed in the article:

Noble M12 GTO-3R

0-60 mph………................................3.3 sec
0-100 mph………………………….8.1 sec
0-150 mph....………………………..26.6 sec
5-60 mph………................................3.9 sec
Standing ¼ mile…………………….11.8 sec @ 118 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph………………….167 ft
Road Holding, 300 ft-dia skidpad….1.00g

I spoke with Dean Rosen, from 1G racing about the article. He said that the results were from a standard 3R with the regular fuel map, running on the bridgestones.

The reason that the results were so good was because:

1. The weather conditions were ideal – Nice and Cold
2. Car and Driver runs the tests on concrete – Nice and Grippy
3. The driver, Larry Webster, is simply phenomenal

If there had been an M400 available for Larry to test on that day it probably would have hit 0-60 in 3 seconds flat!

What a fantastic achievement for Lee! Grab the magazine, the article is really good.

DanH

12,287 posts

283 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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Oh cool, our pub bragging rights just went up a notch

Ash GTO 3R

3,836 posts

264 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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3.3 seconds. Pah

Can do that in the wifes Landrover!

(OK, down hill, well, over a cliff, yet to prove it but she just will not beleive me when I tell her "it's ok luv, it's a landrover and built to do this sort of thing!")

Anyway. Have printed this out, is now firmly in wallet ready for the pub tonight.

lucozade

2,574 posts

302 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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Car and Driver, is this a stateside mag then?

AMG Merc

11,955 posts

276 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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lucozade said:
Car and Driver, is this a stateside mag then?


Yep!

paulcundy

1,897 posts

288 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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were they doing it aligned with the earths rotation? Might help explain it, best I've ever recorded on my logger is 5 seconds - dummy driving.
Regards
Paul C

LaurenceFrost

691 posts

275 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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American performance figures seem to operate in a different dimension.

Road & Track magazine manage to shave at least a second off any 0-60 time.

kentviking

577 posts

263 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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looks like a typo to me...3.8secs perhaps

...and can anyone explain why it took longer for the car to get from 5-60 than from 0-60 (3.9 vs 3."3").

Maybe miknall can shed some light on the theoretical max acceleration they should have been able to glean out of the car.

Any quicker and they'll be using it in F1 next year (at least we might then see some overtaking)

DanH

12,287 posts

283 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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paulcundy said:
were they doing it aligned with the earths rotation? Might help explain it, best I've ever recorded on my logger is 5 seconds - dummy driving.
Regards
Paul C


Doesn't really mean much though as plenty of uk mags have been in the 3.5 secs range going by what they print.

Launching a car clearly involves a lot of skill

I doubt I could work my cars gearbox fast enough to even get close to any of these figures.

AMG Merc

11,955 posts

276 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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Ah, but was it quoted in US-metric seconds (as opposed to UK-imperial seconds)?! :-) LOL

jmg944t

129 posts

256 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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kentviking said:


...and can anyone explain why it took longer for the car to get from 5-60 than from 0-60 (3.9 vs 3."3").


It takes longer to do the 5-60 test as they just idle along and mash the gas. There is no "launch" and the engine is very low in the RPM range effectively bringing on a worst case scenario for Turbo lag. They use it as it is a better demonstration of the cars power not the drivers skill. As Paul C mentioned launching well isn't easy.

cutaway

Original Poster:

17 posts

255 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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Car and Driver also did a TV segment on the Noble M12...

www.nobleforums.com/showthread.php?t=59

It's humbling to watch Larry Webster bring out the potential of the Noble.

DanH

12,287 posts

283 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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oh its that dude! He's pretty annoying!

cutaway

Original Poster:

17 posts

255 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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name said:
Ah, but was it quoted in US-metric seconds (as opposed to UK-imperial seconds)?! :-) LOL

Yes, however a US-Metric second is actually 25% shorter than a UK-Imperial second. Which is why you guys are always six hours ahead of us.

micknall

826 posts

272 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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To be frank, I can't match 3.3 to 60mph, even in an M400. But there are so many variables, such as ambient temp (which I believe was low) and surface-type, that it may well be possible. Our figures were conducted during the summer months at Millbrook's mile straight (a Tarmac surface, as opposed to the grippier concrete section that may have been used by C&D). But at least owners can gain reassurance from knowing that Millbrook is acknowledged as the norm in the industry.

And with reference to the other link about accels: 3200rpm and a brisk let-up of clutch, without sidestepping, brings the best results. But PLEASE bear in mind that I have damaged drivetrains from mainstream cars, with a fraction of the Noble's power, while trying to achieve optimum accels. Try it frequently in your car, and you will pay the price...

Simon Hucknall
Press Officer
Noble Automotive Ltd.

mikes_3r

90 posts

260 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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Absolutely great press for Noble here in the states. Now even the "bench racers" will be left in the dust by us.

joust

14,622 posts

282 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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To be honest, who cares about 0-60's????

J

V6GTO

11,579 posts

265 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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joust said:
To be honest, who cares about 0-60's????

J




Martin.

caccobra

340 posts

259 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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joust said:
To be honest, who cares about 0-60's????

J


Joust,

You seem a little surly lately. Are you off your pablum this week? Need a short blast in the M400 to mellow out?

Craig

jeremyc

27,106 posts

307 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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joust said:
To be honest, who cares about 0-60's????

J

Joust, when he does his first sprint event?

>> Edited by jeremyc on Wednesday 2nd February 21:38