TVR puts its money where its mouth is
TVR puts its money where its mouth is
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lucozade

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2,574 posts

302 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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News story over here:

www.pistonheads.com/tvr/default.asp?storyId=9893

36month/36,000 mile mechanical warranty.

Wouldn't it be nice if Noble followed suit

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

282 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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The sagaris seems more tempting now!

obes

3,298 posts

267 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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Good on them. Exactly what they needed.

V6GTO

11,579 posts

265 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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I think Noble should follow suit. I know that TVR will be in the running for my next car now where they were not before.

Martin.

DanH

12,287 posts

283 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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Yep this is exactly what was needed for them to put their reliability rep behind them!

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,810 posts

263 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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Hhhmmm. If they've sorted the problems that's great and I hope it's true.

But, covered or not, a broken car is a broken car. Knowing that I'm not paying for the car to be off the road for weeks at a time isn't much of a bonus for me.

I'll be watching the failure rates of the new cars with interest, but just giving me a warranty won't make me buy one.

matt_t16

3,402 posts

272 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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Without wishing to do TVR down, I wish them all the best and am extremely encouraged by this annoucement, they have embarked on a testing program which compared to that the Duratec went through is somewhat limited. I still feel in the 'testing' stakes the Noble Duratec unit (even taking its pair of turbos and internal changes) into account comes out ahead, quite a way ahead!

Matt

lucozade

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2,574 posts

302 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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Well I left TVR ownership after 3 failed attempts. 1 Cerb and 2 Tuscans. 1 nightmare v8 and 2 silly Speed Six's. I was terrified of the prospect of paying for an engine rebuild off my own back (upto £9000 has been quoted!).

I found an alternative in Noble and I continue to enjoy my ownership. The car is simply awesome. Everyday it just gets better. I'm looking forward to my first track day experience next month with the factory too.

What really gives you a good feeling about Noble is how quickly the likes of Simon responds to our needs even on this forum - never mind if we have to call the factory.

It's a shame our cars only have the 1 year warranty and I will certainly be considering an extended warranty later in the year.

Good on TVR to offer the 3 years though - it would appear that better times are ahead for them.

washy

950 posts

299 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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Certainly interesting times. I have an initial deposit on a Sagaris but am considering an M400 as an alternative. Have to say this 12 month versus 36 month warranty issue puts a point on TVR's side. I appreciate the duratec is a well developed mainstream product but with 425bhp?!?

DanH

12,287 posts

283 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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washy said:
Certainly interesting times. I have an initial deposit on a Sagaris but am considering an M400 as an alternative. Have to say this 12 month versus 36 month warranty issue puts a point on TVR's side. I appreciate the duratec is a well developed mainstream product but with 425bhp?!?



Fair enough, but they do pop it open and put lots of forged and lightened bits in for the m400. So I'd still put the MTBF higher than a Speed6, although it is possible that the Russian kid has got that sorted.

Not to mention that excluding the turbos a whole new engine is 5k USD+tax+shipping. Sure beats 9k GBP for them to put the old one back together with a speed 6.

washy

950 posts

299 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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I hear you Dan. Lot's to weigh up. These are secondary considerations to how the cars drive anyway. If the M400 blows my socks off then it's sold. I have to admit the last Noble I drove wasn't what I expected but that was a long time ago.

stuh

2,557 posts

296 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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I think that's an excellent and brave move by TVR. It should certainly help those who've had bad speed6 experiences come back and try again.

Wonder if Noble will follow suit............

bogie

16,897 posts

295 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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3 yr unlimited mileage would be even better ...Lotus increased theres 2 years ago to 2yr/24K mile...some people were still out of warranty and suffering HGF after 13 months (like me) ..luckily they honoured it at the time.........

UFO 2 NOB

4,485 posts

272 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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Yep i would like to see a longer warranty as well,ive done 3k road use only so was hardly a high risk for the factory,dont feel that ive had my moneys worth although im sure there are those who have,over to Micknall I think!

matt_t16

3,402 posts

272 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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washy said:
Certainly interesting times. I have an initial deposit on a Sagaris but am considering an M400 as an alternative. Have to say this 12 month versus 36 month warranty issue puts a point on TVR's side. I appreciate the duratec is a well developed mainstream product but with 425bhp?!?



Whilst the power output may appear to reduce the validity of the testing Ford performed its still applicable, physical strength is easy to engineer into an engine, the ability to effectively cool components and engineer sufficient oil supply and strength for those components normally taken for granted (lifters, cam bearings etc.) is something only an OEM can afford to trial, for proof just look at the issues the Speed 6 has had.

Matt

lucozade

Original Poster:

2,574 posts

302 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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I wouldn't like to think this thread is purely about the reliability/warranty of just the engine.

TVR is putting a mechanical warranty of 3 years on all it's new cars as of 1st March 2005.

mustard

6,992 posts

268 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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Going to make a big difference to pre and post march 2005 used values.

Which are you going to choose in 12moths time?, 14 months old and NO warranty or 12mths old and 2yrs MANUFACTURERS warranty remaining..... its a No brainer, expect to see values at least 3k cheaper IMHO for pre 03/05 cars

obes

3,298 posts

267 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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V6GTO said:
TVR will be in the running for my next car now where they were not before.
Martin.


Would have to agree with that. Would not even have looked before due to the legendary unreliability.

AMG Merc

11,955 posts

276 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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obes said:

V6GTO said:
TVR will be in the running for my next car now where they were not before.
Martin.



Would have to agree with that. Would not even have looked before due to the legendary unreliability.


What, and all of a sudden TVR's have become reliable - when did that happen then?!

obes

3,298 posts

267 months

Thursday 17th February 2005
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AMG Merc said:

obes said:


V6GTO said:
TVR will be in the running for my next car now where they were not before.
Martin.




Would have to agree with that. Would not even have looked before due to the legendary unreliability.



What, and all of a sudden TVR's have become reliable - when did that happen then?!


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