Noble m12 in azure blue 2.5 for sale anyone?
Noble m12 in azure blue 2.5 for sale anyone?
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lotus160sport

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527 posts

245 months

Sunday 30th April 2006
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Can anybody help me am kind of new to all this Iam basically trying to find a noble m12 2.5 in azure blue for sale if anyone reads this who ownes one and is looking to sell please reply! ! !

Ash M400

3,836 posts

270 months

Sunday 30th April 2006
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When your are inside driving, the colour means nothing.

Just get the first one you see.

lotus160sport

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527 posts

245 months

Monday 1st May 2006
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Very true wise words thanks mate!

gizard

2,270 posts

312 months

Monday 1st May 2006
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My noble is Lotus Azure Blue - it was a 2.5 but is now a 3 litre but I have spent far too much money on it to sell it sorry - but there are lots out there for sale - take your pick....

lotus160sport

Original Poster:

527 posts

245 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2006
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As much as I would love to buy one of these cars unfortunately thay are just slightly over my budget it is the 2.5 model iam after. Although I have done a bit of research into these cars regarding the ecu and track sumps e.t.c do any of you owners out there know if there are any other pitfalls in owning one of these cars? I would be gutted if I bought one to find it needs a few grand spending on it.

DanH

12,287 posts

289 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2006
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lotus160sport said:
As much as I would love to buy one of these cars unfortunately thay are just slightly over my budget it is the 2.5 model iam after. Although I have done a bit of research into these cars regarding the ecu and track sumps e.t.c do any of you owners out there know if there are any other pitfalls in owning one of these cars? I would be gutted if I bought one to find it needs a few grand spending on it.


I wouldn't buy any car that was 50k new without some contingency in case things go wrong. You may live to regret it. Sorry if thats a downer, but you won't enjoy a car you can't afford to maintain.

plipton

1,302 posts

287 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2006
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lotus160sport said:
I would be gutted if I bought one to find it needs a few grand spending on it.


Not sure if the 2.5 has the torque to do this but some (and it is only some) 3 litre cars without LSD have popped the diff when giving it the berries. Have a chat with Richard or Terry at Vegantune - 2 of the most helpful and knowledgable blokes I've dealt with in recent times.

Also watch out for coolant leaks. Pull the cover off the fuse panel in the passenger footwell to check. There are some joints are directly above the fuses and relays. A;so check the engine bay for signs of colant loss. Not expensive unless you run too low.

What's your budget by the way?

Edited to say check for sloppy steering and gear change and if the car wanders when driving the geo might be out. Check wheel bearings on tracked cars and DO NOT buy any car that has no track sump if it has been within a million miles of a track.

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paulcundy

1,897 posts

294 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2006
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[quote=pliptonNot sure if the 2.5 has the torque to do this but some (and it is only some) 3 litre cars without LSD have popped the diff when giving it the berries.
>> Edited by plipton on Tuesday 2nd May 20:18[/quote]

If you rag it the diff will go whether a 2.5 or 3.0, its only a matter of time. The LSD is pretty much bullet proof.
Regards
PauL C


joust

14,622 posts

288 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2006
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lotus160sport said:
As much as I would love to buy one of these cars unfortunately thay are just slightly over my budget it is the 2.5 model iam after. Although I have done a bit of research into these cars regarding the ecu and track sumps e.t.c do any of you owners out there know if there are any other pitfalls in owning one of these cars? I would be gutted if I bought one to find it needs a few grand spending on it.
I'm afraid you probably aren't ready for Noble ownership.

These are £50k cars, and hence expect a £50k car bill each time you need something done. Even a service, with nothing else needing doing, is £600 and so it's odds on that you'd need the odd £k or two each year to sort out other things.

A set of tyres is £600, disks £120, pads £110 and so on - a slightly different league than the Elise....

J

Mr Noble

6,538 posts

262 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2006
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Just put my car in for the £600 service and was not at all suprised when the bill came in at £1300

I did have the throttle cable re-routed, new pads and a few niggles sorted too, but that was a bit of a drainer on the wallet!

Greg

lotus160sport

Original Poster:

527 posts

245 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2006
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Thanks for your input people but I am determind to own one of these suberb cars glad I have been warned about the heafty service charges though thanks.

joust

14,622 posts

288 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2006
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That's the spirit! As long as you are aware of the costs, and expect them, then the cars themselves are out of this world. If you can ensure that the odd 1-2k bill isn't going to be a downer for you, then a good 2.5l car is an absolute joy.

I still sometimes hanker over the 2.5l even though I have an M400. Whilst slower, the car still was somewhat more entertaining in the shere way it delivers it's power, and of course oversteer is somewhat easier (and hence more entertaining for passengers) in a 2.5l on SO3s than it is in the M400.

J

lotus160sport

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527 posts

245 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2006
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Hi J only just realised it was your website and article in the evo magazine that inspired me to save for a noble great website and good info to be had on their keep up the good work.

AshleyJ WRX

4 posts

260 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2006
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So guys what is the main difference between the GTO 3 and the R version? Can you get a GTO 3 with the LSD? or is that just the R?

I also noticed the champagne coloured Noble in the classified's is running 445bhp does anyone one on here own it? Just wondering what it has had done to reach those figures!

Changing my car and can't choose between a Noble and Monaro VXR at the moment.... Caught a bit between passion and practicability at the moment!

joust

14,622 posts

288 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2006
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lotus160sport said:
Hi J only just realised it was your website and article in the evo magazine that inspired me to save for a noble great website and good info to be had on their keep up the good work.
:blush:

The website hasn't had any updates since I got the M400 - no time really. Glad you found it useful.

J

joust

14,622 posts

288 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2006
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AshleyJ WRX said:
So guys what is the main difference between the GTO 3 and the R version? Can you get a GTO 3 with the LSD? or is that just the R?
LSD can be added to any car that doesn't have one.

AshleyJ WRX said:
I also noticed the champagne coloured Noble in the classified's is running 445bhp does anyone one on here own it? Just wondering what it has had done to reach those figures!
Change to the M400 turbos and change the map. 425bhp for the M400 was chosen as a good compromise between power and longevity according to the factory.

It's got a "Works 2" engine by Noble Motorsport. Noble Motorsport (no relation to Lee Noble) tuned and built the 2.5l engines, and they are pretty well regarded in the industry. As with all upgrades though, there will be some sort of compromise that makes it different to the stock engine, but depending on your view that may be better or worse than what the factory did with the M400 engine.

Contact details for JNM are at www.motor-mechanics.co.uk/

AshleyJ WRX said:
Changing my car and can't choose between a Noble and Monaro VXR at the moment.... Caught a bit between passion and practicability at the moment!
Noble! Go on, go on, go on.

J

>> Edited by joust on Wednesday 3rd May 14:51

obes

3,298 posts

273 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2006
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yep, don't rule the 2.5's out !
a well sorted one may be harder to find but would be well worth it

AshleyJ WRX

4 posts

260 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2006
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Sorry for what is maybe a daft question but I don't know a great deal about these cars..... what makes a well sorted 2.5? what kind off power and the necessary mods? I have to say 445bhp on a car that weighs a fraction over a ton gets the petrol flowing through my veins!

plipton

1,302 posts

287 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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AshleyJ WRX said:
So guys what is the main difference between the GTO 3 and the R version? Can you get a GTO 3 with the LSD? or is that just the R?


3R... Er....headlights are faired in, leather interior, a bit more sound deadening, most have 6 speed box and LSD (but not all - it was a £2500 option originally) and the wheels are different... that's about it I think.

GTO3.... all of the above are options except the front clam doesn't have the faired in lights (but the non-faired lights work better)