M15 - V - R8
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GTO400

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1,877 posts

280 months

Monday 9th October 2006
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Which one would you buy ?

pbsaxman

977 posts

254 months

Monday 9th October 2006
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GTO400 said:
Which one would you buy ?


Both biglaugh

alex s

2,105 posts

265 months

Monday 9th October 2006
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R8 ....keep the M12 for fun summer blats

joust

14,622 posts

288 months

Monday 9th October 2006
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Let's see.

R8. Made by Audi. Competes with the 911.

M15. Made by Lee.

If I wanted a 911, I'd buy a 911....

However, given my recent purchase, you may well see me in a R8 at some point in the future when the P&L loss is acceptable (worked it out yet Greg???)

The official site is very cool though
http://microsites.audi.com/audir8/htm

The black version looks terribly like a gayardo though.

J

mr noble

6,538 posts

262 months

Monday 9th October 2006
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What a truly stunning website! Thats got to be the best marketing site and coolest film I have ever seen.


It pains me to say so, and all you lot know that I am a true Noble lover, but I think that the new Audi R8 is stunning in every respect.

I have actually had my name down for one at my local Audi dealer for about 8 months. Not intending to keep one, but its a close call between an R8 and a gallardo for my next car. (both should hit the 55k mark at about the same time.

Greg

mr noble

6,538 posts

262 months

Monday 9th October 2006
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joust said:
However, given my recent purchase, you may well see me in a R8 at some point in the future when the P&L loss is acceptable (worked it out yet Greg???)J


rolleyes Uumm, not really matey, are you buying a job lot from a finance reposession? Do you want to be your usual ledgendary self and offload one to me for a small profit instead of a huge one? I would love any of them!!

G

alex s

2,105 posts

265 months

Monday 9th October 2006
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mr noble said:
What a truly stunning website! Thats got to be the best marketing site and coolest film I have ever seen.


It pains me to say so, and all you lot know that I am a true Noble lover, but I think that the new Audi R8 is stunning in every respect.

I have actually had my name down for one at my local Audi dealer for about 8 months. Not intending to keep one, but its a close call between an R8 and a gallardo for my next car. (both should hit the 55k mark at about the same time.

Greg


Think it will be quite a few years before the lambo hits 55K...for a rhd anyway....what is the price on the R8...what is the deposit greg?? Have to agree..website is very well done, as is the car.


Edited by alex s on Monday 9th October 22:55

ianrudge

210 posts

245 months

Monday 9th October 2006
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This is the trouble with the M15 costing £75k+

You know the R8 is going to be well screwed together and the interior will be streets ahead of the M15 both in design and quality.

They aren't going to be as common as 911

If the M15 cost 60k I'd put a deposit on now. But I am more likely to go the Audi route.

Subject to the test drives.....

mr noble

6,538 posts

262 months

Monday 9th October 2006
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Should not really say anything about my R8 on here.

You know who I stayed with at Le Mans??

Don't have a deposit down (as such) But TBH I can't afford on now and don't want to sell the Noble yet. Was just planning on making a fast buck on a premium sale.

I would definatly rather spend my £75k on a brand spankers new V8 R8 than a V6 M15. The build, warranty, ease of service etc will be streets ahead.

I agree, a £60k M15 would make much more sense. I think its going to be a very tough market for Noble, but then again, it won't be hard to shift 250 of them each year, and if thats enough, then all will be well.


I think Noble need to announce some plans and release some official drawings for an M12 Mk2 very soon. There are a whole host of superb new cars coming out soon, and Noble currently is only pitching one car in the toughest spot.

If I knew there was a new £50k supercar (from Noble) just round the corner then I would not be starting to look about for what to get next!

G

Edited by mr noble on Monday 9th October 23:25

RR-Eng

5,708 posts

262 months

Tuesday 10th October 2006
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mr noble said:
I would definatly rather spend my £75k on a brand spankers new V8 R8 than a V6 M15. The build, warranty, ease of service etc will be streets ahead.

I agree, a £60k M15 would make much more sense. I think its going to be a very tough market for Noble, but then again, it won't be hard to shift 250 of them each year, and if thats enough, then all will be well.


Then again the Noble is likely to be streets ahead on performance compared to the R8. The M15's interior did look a little disjointed I wouldn't be surprised if the M15 has had a significant interior facelift before customers recieve their cars.

mr noble said:

I think Noble need to announce some plans and release some official drawings for an M12 Mk2 very soon. There are a whole host of superb new cars coming out soon, and Noble currently is only pitching one car in the toughest spot.

If I knew there was a new £50k supercar (from Noble) just round the corner then I would not be starting to look about for what to get next!


I suspect that the next car out of Noble will be an M15 with more power and no luxuary kit as an M400 replacement. Since such a car would require less design work than a complete overhaul of the M12 and be more profitable due to high price bracket. Would be interested to see what the relative cost of the M15's platform is compared to the M12 and whether an M15 platform could make money at M12 prices.

The car I would be worried about if I were Noble would be the Lotus Esprit as that is likely to be pitched at a similar price and market with the additional benefit of Lotus's history and far larger engineering reasources.

member8888

188 posts

259 months

Tuesday 10th October 2006
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That's the trouble with the M15, it's up against stunning cars like the new Audi that are bullet proof. The extra bit of performance will only appeal to a limited number of customers imho. I predict that Noble will regret not exploiting the niche that he made is own, the Audi has class and style. The M15 has none.

AMG Merc

11,955 posts

282 months

Tuesday 10th October 2006
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member8888 said:
That's the trouble with the M15, it's up against stunning cars like the new Audi that are bullet proof. The extra bit of performance will only appeal to a limited number of customers imho. I predict that Noble will regret not exploiting the niche that he made is own, the Audi has class and style. The M15 has none.


Where can I see some details on this Audi?

mr noble

6,538 posts

262 months

Tuesday 10th October 2006
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Always read the threads before asking questions Rob!

AMG Merc

11,955 posts

282 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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mr noble said:
Always read the threads before asking questions Rob!


Smartass Gregor rolleyes I was too busy to trawl or I would have asked - you see, I was out in my Maybach - had to visit the RR dealer the check out the respray on my Phantom (also modified those umbrellas) - just came back from Monza where I met with the engineers about revising the suspension on my new track-toy - acquired them in an online auction last week in a knockdown deal - you wouldn't believe it!

Now the that Audi - THAT IS NICE - clearly in the M15 class - Daytona Grey with Carobon Sigma Sidleblade please! At the risk of further sarcasm will this be a reality, what's the cost estimate and delivery when?

And, THAT'S the way to create interest in a car before it exists - what an inspiring video clip - if only Noble had that level of marketing £s!

GTO400

Original Poster:

1,877 posts

280 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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R8 is being built and only small production numbers, UK allocation sold for 2 years.
Price about £76'500, and to answer my original question it has to be an R8

AMG Merc

11,955 posts

282 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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GTO400 said:
and to answer my original question it has to be an R8


Agreed - R8 please!

wizz72

575 posts

257 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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R8 for me please. when its got the Lambo engine in will it be called R10 ? or R8/10 or R8/R10 or R10/R8 or.........yadda yadda

gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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not a big fan of the R8 myself

a couple of reason if i had the money why i would not buy one

1. Its not turbocharged - so there is very little scope for more power

2. Its slower than the M15

3. Its an Audi !!

4. It looks like an audi not a supercar

mr noble

6,538 posts

262 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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1. Its not turbocharged - so there is very little scope for more poweR.........IS 400BHP N/A A BAD THING?

2. Its slower than the M15..........MIGHT HELP ME LIVE LONGER

3. Its an Audi !!.............GREAT!!......BUILT LIKE BUILDINGS

4. It looks like an audi not a supercar...........IT LOOKS AWESOME!!!




I STILL LOVE ALL THINGS NOBLE, BUT THINK THAT THE M12 SERIES IS BEING LEFT HIGH AND DRY WHICH IS VERY DANGEROUS!!


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hunttheshunt

1,093 posts

269 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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Think I'd rather have the Gallardo or a 575M Fiorano myself. Mind you £60K for a new Ferrari V12....so best get a warranty on either of those.