Car wont start
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ajg31

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236 months

Tuesday 1st May 2007
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The honeymoon is officially over now. Anyone have any ideas as to why "it" wont start? details are. alarm active, press fob, alarm deactivates, into car, key in ignition, turn to on, fule pump primes, turn to start and nothing. turn off, turn on, fule pump primes, press srart button, nothing...
Feels like an alarm issue to me, but i am not sure as i have no idea what bit of circuit it cuts out. lights work, stereo etc so its not battery. Worked fine on Sunday so god knows whats upset it from then to now.
Any help appreciated, otherwise it can be loaded onto a truck and took taken somewhere to be looked at. Supposed to have a track/airfield day on fri too

obes

3,298 posts

273 months

Tuesday 1st May 2007
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Could be immob, you need to offer the fob thing up to the receiver (near your left knee when your in the drivers seat)

Either that or one of the fuses in the box under the rear cam behind the drivers seat.

ajg31

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Tuesday 1st May 2007
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tried the immobiliser fob. held the 3 prongs against the holder. will try and have a look at the fuses now. thanks for that, Adam

Bugs M400

112 posts

245 months

Tuesday 1st May 2007
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Do you get all the ignition lights on, or do they go off a moment after you've turned the key?

ajg31

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Tuesday 1st May 2007
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Found 4 fuses under the clam behind drivers position. cleaned up the contacts, seem okay.
When i try to start i get fuel gauge on, temp on, battery on and oil on. when i flip the key they stay lit, its not trying to start. does seem to be alarm related. hope i am not gonna miss my track day on friday as well

Humpy

1,171 posts

248 months

Tuesday 1st May 2007
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I used an AutoWatch alarm spacialist to fix a problem I had - might be worth a call for some help in resetting the alarm? Alan Smith - Mobile: 07836 239543 / Tel: 01494 512922

ajg31

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Tuesday 1st May 2007
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Thanks mate, you did give me that contact no before when i wanted the front calm wired into the alarm. Will have to call tomorrow now, already late for work. sure its something silly, thought at first the inertia switch had got tripped, but the pumps running, doh! Logic to me says if i drove it to where its now parked up on sunday and come tuesday it wont fire it kinda has to point to alarm/immobiliser. this is payback for the car i sold on sunday breaking down on its new owner (burst coolant pipe). Anyone watch My name is Earl? Karma

ajg31

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Tuesday 1st May 2007
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another dumb question. if i try to use the ignition operated 5 digit alarm code to disable the alarm, do i lose central locking too?

Humpy

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248 months

Tuesday 1st May 2007
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Adam - YHM

ajg31

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Wednesday 2nd May 2007
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Humpy said:
I used an AutoWatch alarm spacialist to fix a problem I had - might be worth a call for some help in resetting the alarm? Alan Smith - Mobile: 07836 239543 / Tel: 01494 512922


Spoke to Alan today, nice chap. He said to me that he thought it was unlikely to be immobiliser related as he had never had one of these systems go wrong like that.
Spoke to the last owner who suggested checking the power to the starter. I will try this tomorrow, but not sure how i can crank it over AND look at the multimeter I cannot remember off hand, is the starter relay listed/shown in the owners handbook?

ar-gto

45 posts

266 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2007
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Had a similar thing with mine a few times - the problem being that starter motor fuse had blown.

nickytwohats

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270 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2007
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ajg31 said:
Humpy said:
I used an AutoWatch alarm spacialist to fix a problem I had - might be worth a call for some help in resetting the alarm? Alan Smith - Mobile: 07836 239543 / Tel: 01494 512922


Spoke to Alan today, nice chap. He said to me that he thought it was unlikely to be immobiliser related as he had never had one of these systems go wrong like that.
Spoke to the last owner who suggested checking the power to the starter. I will try this tomorrow, but not sure how i can crank it over AND look at the multimeter I cannot remember off hand, is the starter relay listed/shown in the owners handbook?

A LENGTH OF SPEAKER WIRE AND HAVE IT ON YOUR LAP (caps lock off)

ajg31

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Wednesday 2nd May 2007
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Okay, why didnt i think of this? i can use a jump lead to go from battery to the starter and pop, off she goes.
So can only be fuse, relay or broken wire i have checked the 4 fuses on the RHS of the engine near the chassis and they are not blown. I can see 3 or 4 relays on the bulkhead directly behind the drivers seat area but i dont know what they are for.
Happy i can fire it up, but trailing wires not the best solution, haha.
So where is the relay to fire up the starter? Thanks

ajg31

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Thursday 3rd May 2007
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Now ran a cable from the 2nd relay behind the drivers seat IIRC to the starter motor and it fires every time. Will get someone to look at it next week, but at least i can get to carlimits tomorrow and enjoy the weekend in it

alex s

2,105 posts

265 months

Thursday 3rd May 2007
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ajg31 said:
Now ran a cable from the 2nd relay behind the drivers seat IIRC to the starter motor and it fires every time. Will get someone to look at it next week, but at least i can get to carlimits tomorrow and enjoy the weekend in it


Have fun, Andy Walsh is very good, i also heard a rumour on Seloc that he has a Noble now as well.

ajg31

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Friday 4th May 2007
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not sure if i can go car might have got itself a RHS puncture tonight. Will know in morning. Fingers crossed!!

bruce h

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271 months

Sunday 3rd June 2007
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Hi i seem to be havin the same prob, ign lights on but wont turn over, have you had yours fixed yet, if so what was the cure. (mine is intermittant one day it starts then the next it wont)

bruce

ajg31

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Sunday 3rd June 2007
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alex s said:
ajg31 said:
Now ran a cable from the 2nd relay behind the drivers seat IIRC to the starter motor and it fires every time. Will get someone to look at it next week, but at least i can get to carlimits tomorrow and enjoy the weekend in it smile
Have fun, Andy Walsh is very good, i also heard a rumour on Seloc that he has a Noble now as well.
Andy was fantastic, shame the day cost me my engine, hehe. He doesnt own one as he said they were too fragile! why oh why was it mine that proved him right!!! Although when i said there was a 2.5 on PH for 18k he got a bit more excited!

Sent email regarding my start issues