Pulling a bit....
Pulling a bit....
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p1carl

Original Poster:

635 posts

265 months

Wednesday 15th August 2007
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On the drive home from Sunday's Northants run I noticed that the M400 is pulling to the right all the time - doesn't matter which road or the camber.

The factory say that it needs to be set up with a string box and only a dealer can do it? Surely this can't be the case?
I'm 150 miles away from the nearest dealer. Any advice welcome guys please?
Oh and I don't know what a 'string box' is? Except my mum used to have a 'box with some string in' but i doubt that's it, is it? nono

Cheers Carl

ajg31

1,455 posts

236 months

Wednesday 15th August 2007
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would have thought any good 4 wheel laser alignment place could see whats up, although i have no idea what a string box is either frown

Mr Noble

6,538 posts

262 months

Wednesday 15th August 2007
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String box is the old fashioned way of doing the laser wheel alignment.

Some say its more exact, oythers just say that as they don't have/can't afford the laser machine!!

They basically tie a piece of string around the car from each wheel centre and make it square by adjusting the wheels. Its to check their toe in and camber and alignment.

Gets done on an MOT and is prob all that needs doing Carl. Give your local ferrari, porcshe, etc specialist a call. They'll be able to do it for you.

G

Edited by Mr Noble on Wednesday 15th August 13:42

nigelw

706 posts

230 months

Wednesday 15th August 2007
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stringing is , as mentioned above , an old way of checking that your car isnt crabbing down the road . This is done , as said before by wrapping string round the wheels and checking the gao is equal at the rear . The car will still need the toe in setting at the rear and the front to make sure that these are ok , and its usually worth having a last check with the string / laser to ensure its still ok after the toe adjustment !

sean_goodman

536 posts

232 months

Wednesday 15th August 2007
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surely any decent specialist with lazer or infa red 4 wheel alignment facility can set the car up if you give them the geometry settings.

i have been amazed recently reading that places charge 250 plus quid to set cars up.

i have a place near me a bog standard tyre and suspension place which has 4 wheel alignment capability and charges 50 euro to set a car up to whatever the customer wants it set up to with regards to camber, caster and toe.

surely there are places like this in the uk?

nigelw

706 posts

230 months

Wednesday 15th August 2007
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I know I'm gonna get my arsed kicked for this , but I would start with the simple things ...are the tyre pressures spot on side to side ? ...are the tyres all matched ?...has the problem developed , or has it been there since you picked it up ? ..... I suppose the problem of laser wheel alignment equipment is not finding the kit , it's finding somebody good who knows what he's doing with the adjustments ?...

art411y

832 posts

249 months

Wednesday 15th August 2007
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nice car you got there carl matey.take it to bush tyres on the a180 near grimsby .very good 4 wheel laser and a good lad who does it .allways used them just tell em artie sent ya

humpy

1,171 posts

248 months

Wednesday 15th August 2007
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Take it to Plans - they are very good at Geo work apparently smile

paulcundy

1,897 posts

294 months

Wednesday 15th August 2007
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nigelw said:
I know I'm gonna get my arsed kicked for this , but I would start with the simple things ...are the tyre pressures spot on side to side ? ...are the tyres all matched ?...has the problem developed , or has it been there since you picked it up ? ..... I suppose the problem of laser wheel alignment equipment is not finding the kit , it's finding somebody good who knows what he's doing with the adjustments ?...
No arse kicking from me. Tyres are obviously the first place to start.

As to Geo Plans set my car up with string and it runs true at all speeds. Lasers who needs em!
Regards
Paul C

joust

14,622 posts

288 months

Wednesday 15th August 2007
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Picture of a string box here



Taken from http://www.ultima-gtr.info/ubuild003.htm, look under 26th August.

J

paulcundy

1,897 posts

294 months

Wednesday 15th August 2007
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anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 16th August 2007
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Call me old fashioned but you have only had the car a few days.Surely Dovehouse would sort it out if they was asked? At the end of the day you have bought a £45k car which is not driving as it should.

Edited by Dwrights on Thursday 16th August 07:25

V6GTO

11,579 posts

271 months

Thursday 16th August 2007
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paulcundy said:
What a dodgy looking couple of characters hanging around the door! I bet they're trying to nick spare parts biggrin

Martin.

p1carl

Original Poster:

635 posts

265 months

Thursday 16th August 2007
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sean_goodman said:
surely any decent specialist with lazer or infa red 4 wheel alignment facility can set the car up if you give them the geometry settings.

i have been amazed recently reading that places charge 250 plus quid to set cars up.

i have a place near me a bog standard tyre and suspension place which has 4 wheel alignment capability and charges 50 euro to set a car up to whatever the customer wants it set up to with regards to camber, caster and toe.

surely there are places like this in the uk?
Any Idea what the numbers are?

p1carl

Original Poster:

635 posts

265 months

Thursday 16th August 2007
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art411y said:
nice car you got there carl matey.take it to bush tyres on the a180 near grimsby .very good 4 wheel laser and a good lad who does it .allways used them just tell em artie sent ya
Thanks mate - we'll have to get together for a driving sometime now there are TWO Noble's in the area...

worty

2,202 posts

254 months

Thursday 16th August 2007
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wavey
Don't forget me i'm not far away
worty

p1carl

Original Poster:

635 posts

265 months

Thursday 16th August 2007
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Dwrights said:
Call me old fashioned but you have only had the car a few days.Surely Dovehouse would sort it out if they was asked? At the end of the day you have bought a £45k car which is not driving as it should.

Edited by Dwrights on Thursday 16th August 07:25
You're right m8. I have no doubt that the guys at Dovehouse would be more than happy to sort if for me. But it's like I said at the beginning of the post and it applies to Dovehouse. They are a 100 miles away from me, so if I can have it checked and rectified locally for a few quid it would save me a day taking the car down to Dovehouse.

p1carl

Original Poster:

635 posts

265 months

Thursday 16th August 2007
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worty said:
wavey
Don't forget me i'm not far away
worty
redcard Sorry my good man - How could I forget you? THREE Noble's in the area...common as muck hehe

sean_goodman

536 posts

232 months

Friday 17th August 2007
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p1carl said:
sean_goodman said:
surely any decent specialist with lazer or infa red 4 wheel alignment facility can set the car up if you give them the geometry settings.

i have been amazed recently reading that places charge 250 plus quid to set cars up.

i have a place near me a bog standard tyre and suspension place which has 4 wheel alignment capability and charges 50 euro to set a car up to whatever the customer wants it set up to with regards to camber, caster and toe.

surely there are places like this in the uk?
Any Idea what the numbers are?
no i havnt, did a search on here though and it seems that only the toe is adjustable so... this begs the question if castor and camber are fixed what is the point of doing eleborate lazor checks if only toe can be adjusted.

i suppose a 4 wheel check will confirm all is within tolerance because if castor or camber are wrong it must mean something is worn / broken.

here is some useful info i found
http://www.justgofaster.com/gallery/gallery/nathan...