6 speed sequential gearboxs

[TIGERSIX]

Have any of you Lads or Ladies tried fitting a Quaife or Hewland or any other type of sequential g/box to a Noble, now going to upgrade mine I know the cost of them over a comp trans set up just curious as to who has tried it before or if I will have to be the first be the guniepig to have a go.Chaars in advance Ian H (waits for Adrian,Phil and PaulC)

[peterguk V6 KWK]

I spoke to xtrac ages ago, and IIRC, virtually all the sequential kits for our gearbox casings are designed for BTCC type cars, and they develop nowhere near as much torque. They were of the opinion our engines would eat them for breakfast.

[TIGERSIX]

peterguk V6 KWK said:

I spoke to xtrac ages ago, and IIRC, virtually all the sequential kits for our gearbox casings are designed for BTCC type cars, and they develop nowhere near as much torque. They were of the opinion our engines would eat them for breakfast.

dont suppose you spoke to quaife and hewland per chance peter

[Mike Tuckwood]

I'm aware of a couple of sequential change conversion kits which use all the standard g/box and just convert the change mechanism, not had time to get one in yet to try, but I will be doing next year.


Mike

[TIGERSIX]

Mike Tuckwood said:

I'm aware of a couple of sequential change conversion kits which use all the standard g/box and just convert the change mechanism, not had time to get one in yet to try, but I will be doing next year.


Mike

Is it any of the afore mentioned (Quaife/Hewland & Xtrac) or another Cheers Mike.Ian H

[peterguk V6 KWK]

Mike Tuckwood said:

I'm aware of a couple of sequential change conversion kits which use all the standard g/box and just convert the change mechanism, not had time to get one in yet to try, but I will be doing next year.


Mike

Me too Waiting for more info....

[Adrian W]

I've spoken to a few people about these, none of them expect the clutch to last long.

[peterguk V6 KWK]

Adrian W said:

I've spoken to a few people about these, none of them expect the clutch to last long.

Any reason why? The clutch is used as normal.

[Adrian W]

peterguk V6 KWK said:

Adrian W said:

I've spoken to a few people about these, none of them expect the clutch to last long.

Any reason why? The clutch is used as normal.

Didnt ask, might just be my car,I know one of the OEM's who make these kits, he was pretty sure it would brake the clutch, his is solonoid based. Oakly design do a really nice kit for 997 gt3, I spoke to him about adapting one but havnt got round to looking at it seriously.

I think the shock when they release the clutch is quiet hard, maybe i'll pester a few people a Autosport and see if they've moved on.

[peterguk V6 KWK]

This is the one i've come across.. Seen a couple of good reviews.. Waiting for more info.

http://www.sqsracing.com/index.php?load=program&am...

[Adrian W]

I don't know if it's best to go Electric or air, don't know which is more reliable, also not sure if there is a benefit on the road?

[peterguk V6 KWK]

The one in my link just gets rid of the H gate. Still have to use the clutch. In reality time saving is small, but it does prevent missed gears.

[Mike Tuckwood]

TIGERSIX said:

Mike Tuckwood said:

I'm aware of a couple of sequential change conversion kits which use all the standard g/box and just convert the change mechanism, not had time to get one in yet to try, but I will be doing next year.


Mike

Is it any of the afore mentioned (Quaife/Hewland & Xtrac) or another Cheers Mike.Ian H

Nope, none of those, these are aftermarket dedicated bolt on change mechanisms that tie in with the strandard B/box.
They just eliminate the H pattern, clutch still required.

If dog engagement gears are necessary to take the torque we will/may put through them, we've already got the option to have them custom made, depends how mental we decide to go with it? Obviously of we go dog engagement, we'll go the whole hog and have straight cut gears too.

[TIGERSIX]

Well its gone on the two poster in the workshop today had to build a platform 3 poxy inchs high none of my trolly jacks where low enough either to get it high enough to get the arms under the chassis but at least I have a nice insulated deck the work on now, engine/g/box out Monday then battle will comence on finding a solution,spoke to a pal in the states who recons what I need can be attained from the good ole USA so roll on the new year when they all get back to work hope its a swift solution as I took the SuperSix out t/day and fook it was chill even with the biggles tt hat on ,on a lighter note I hope you all had a good crimbo . Cheers Ian H

[peterguk V6 KWK]

TIGERSIX said:

Well its gone on the two poster in the workshop today had to build a platform 3 poxy inchs high none of my trolly jacks where low enough either to get it high enough to get the arms under the chassis but at least I have a nice insulated deck the work on now, engine/g/box out Monday then battle will comence on finding a solution,spoke to a pal in the states who recons what I need can be attained from the good ole USA so roll on the new year when they all get back to work hope its a swift solution as I took the SuperSix out t/day and fook it was chill even with the biggles tt hat on ,on a lighter note I hope you all had a good crimbo . Cheers Ian H

So apart from a food dose of full stops and capital letters , what exactly are you finding a solution to??

[Adrian W]

Sounds like he broke it, he was warned, as has everyone else.

[TIGERSIX]

peterguk V6 KWK said:

TIGERSIX said:

Well its gone on the two poster in the workshop today had to build a platform 3 poxy inchs high none of my trolly jacks where low enough either to get it high enough to get the arms under the chassis but at least I have a nice insulated deck the work on now, engine/g/box out Monday then battle will comence on finding a solution,spoke to a pal in the states who recons what I need can be attained from the good ole USA so roll on the new year when they all get back to work hope its a swift solution as I took the SuperSix out t/day and fook it was chill even with the biggles tt hat on ,on a lighter note I hope you all had a good crimbo . Cheers Ian H

So apart from a food dose of full stops and capital letters , what exactly are you finding a solution to??

If a suitable sequential box can be used in one of these babys,so far the torque seems to be the limiting factor at the mo but in the states they seem more freely capable to handle the torque that these cars develop,I quote from a racebox tech guy who builds sequential boxs ex Lotus chappie ,have sent various emails to Quaife Hewland and Xtrac any one with any other bright ideas whom to try,come on Adrian yee font of all knowledge

[peterguk V6 KWK]

Your limiting factor in terms of off the shelf solutions is the transverse layout, and the competition history of this engine.

BTCC and similar is N/A only, so no silly torque figures. When i spoke with xtrac, they also reminded me that BTCC regs allow the engine to be canted over for COG reasons, so the gearbox casing would have needed major mods. IIRC, i was Quaife who said it could be done, but £15K minimum.

Edited by peterguk V6 KWK on Saturday 27th December 21:28

[Adrian W]

I had a long chat with the Sedev guys(just down the road) they said "if it could be done £20k+

[TIGERSIX]

As usual some good responses from Peter,Mike and Adrian thanks chaps will see what the new year brings with emails I sent out to the afore mentioned,nice to see you chaps are not to ratted from the festive merryment to respond